Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road

Seayfam · July 12, 2012, 06:56:38 PM

Quote from: siberyd on July 11, 2012, 04:19:38 PM
Seayfam,

Pretty bus, don't know if I got it. Think you could go and visit for me and get:
VIN
Name
Home city and state.

Siberyd

I just stopped by there tonight after work and the both of them were gone. Sorry! I wish I could have talked to them for you. I didn't even get the chance to look at the plates on them for you. The first bus I posted was from Arizona, but I didn't get a plate number. The green bus I posted yesterday had a extension on the rear engine doors almost identical to the Arizona bus.
Maybe someone here knows who owns them?

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siberyd · July 12, 2012, 07:16:45 PM

No worries, we will eventually catch up with them. Thanks for trying

Siberyd

pd4501-771 · July 13, 2012, 09:05:42 AM

This is interesting that there appears to be half as many (so far discovered) 4104s in the "still a bus catagory" as 4501 Scenicruisers. (I know of about 20 seated 4501s in various conditions) Yet they produced 6 times as many 04s, and they manufactured 04s four years later than the 4501. I guess I'm glad I bought my seated 04 when I had the chance. Makes one wonder about other seated models that remain. 4106, 4107 etc. All dinosaurs really I guess.

Tom

leroy · July 13, 2012, 03:30:36 PM

how many of the 4104 came with a hydershift which was a 8 speed trans
leroy

gus · July 13, 2012, 04:11:08 PM

Very few.

Hydrashift is a two speed clutch, the trans is the same.

I think it amounted to about six speeds since some of them overlapped or maybe it wasn't used on all gears - don't hold me to this though!

Kevin · July 13, 2012, 10:11:18 PM

Re: Hydrashifts,

Hard Headed Ken probably knows how many speeds, etc... he had one of the Hydrashifts in his '04 back in the day. I wish I could find one, though I've heard that there may have been some problems because of the "wet" clutch... slippage starting out on steep inclines maybe?

I would also be interested in one of those 2-speed rears that one gentleman created. Wish I could do something like that! Not nearly brilliant enough.

Kevin

LowTide · July 14, 2012, 08:32:38 AM

Siberyd,

Here is another one for you to ad to the list.

1953 4104
VIN: C68057PD4104234

Location, Bremen Alabama

This one is for sale on Busnut in case you need any further information.

Cheers
Mike

leroy · July 14, 2012, 06:57:46 PM

Quote from: gus on July 13, 2012, 04:11:08 PM
Very few.

Hydrashift is a two speed clutch, the trans is the same.

I think it amounted to about six speeds since some of them overlapped or maybe it wasn't used on all gears - don't hold me to this though!

yes they had 8 speeds,had three cluth plates. would like to find one good condition
will try to find out they run between serviced, trailways
leroy

siberyd · July 14, 2012, 10:07:56 PM

Lowtide,

Thanks for the VIN, the more the merrier.

Leroy,

Been asking folks if they have a hydrashift trans, no positive results yet, but I keep trying.

Us busnuts were an odd lot, many folks give just enough info and then seem to forget my email address.

siberyd · July 14, 2012, 10:13:42 PM

Got a new VIN number from a couple in Central CA. Its a converted 1957, a popular year for conversions. Anyways she has it up for sale. PM me is you know someone that wants one or.......

Siberyd

siberyd · July 25, 2012, 12:04:17 PM

July 25 update.

We are up 7 VINs from the last update. Will have years on my next update. A husky just ate my phoneline wherd it enters the house. Typing this on my Android.

Seayfam · August 05, 2012, 02:09:47 PM

Quote from: Seayfam on July 11, 2012, 01:05:20 PM
Is this one you already have on your list? It was 6:00am when I drove by it, so I didn't ask. There are two of them at the same campground here on the Homer Spit Ak. If I can find the time, I'll as the owners of both of them.

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Siberyd
I just ran into this bus again today, there was nobody in or around it. I did happen to get the plates and a number on the rear for you. The number on the rear of the bus is 112416 and it has California plates with a personalized plate# 58 GMC
Hope this helps!
Gary

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siberyd · August 07, 2012, 10:02:51 AM

Gary,

Many thanks for your detective work. I will follow up the numbers and plate off the bus and see what info comes back to me.

Siberyd

John Z · August 08, 2012, 11:41:44 AM

I raise my glass to toast the best looking bus ever built - the GM PD-4104.

Ours (Tubby) is a 1959, number 4139 (anyone else notice in the tool compartment, that they used a letter "I" instead of a 1?). Fully converted,,, well it's useable if not finished.

It was delivered new to Trailways in Oklahoma City.

" They just don't make them like that anymore!"

siberyd · August 08, 2012, 09:53:32 PM

John Z,

Thanks for your bus info, I will add your bus to thr master
list.

Siberyd