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Quote from: dtcerrato on April 14, 2023, 11:02:47 AM
Betcha can't eat just one!

After watching chips made for 4 months I won't even eat one !,when the oil gets old then you get flavored chips.It is quite the operation how they recycle the oil over and over again   
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Entergy Texas and Monarch Energy to advance green hydrogen in Southeast Texas

April 10, 2023 1 By ERIN KILGORE
Entergy Texas and Monarch Energy have signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) to supply long-term renewable energy to Monarch's 500-megawatt green H2 electrolyzer project near Beaumont, Texas. Entergy Texas will leverage the existing transmission infrastructure to supply the renewable energy to Monarch's electrolyzer project or build new generation resources as part of the agreement. Monarch Energy's green hydrogen electrolyzer project could bring a possible $500m investment in the Beaumont region with more than 500 temporary construction jobs and more than 30 permanent operational jobs. The project is expected to commence commercial operations by 2026.
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I didn't know this occurred naturally:

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FORBES
An L.A. Startup Aims To Turn The Oceans Into A CO2 Sponge And 'Green' Hydrogen Machine
Apr 12, 2023,03:00pm EDT
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Gaurav Sant, a UCLA professor of civil and environmental engineering and materials science and engineering, runs the Institute for Carbon Management.UCLA SAMUELI SCHOOL OF ENGINEERING
Created by scientists at UCLA's ambitious Institute for Carbon Management, Equatic has developed a way to remove an environmentally harmful greenhouse gas from our atmosphere — and simultaneously generate usable green fuel.
By Alan Ohnsman Forbes Staff

In a drafty dockside warehouse at the Port of Los Angeles on a cool evening early this year, Gaurav Sant, a UCLA professor of civil and environmental engineering and materials science and engineering, was speaking to a conference crowd about the potential for a new way to pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.

The 39-year-old director of UCLA's Institute for Carbon Management (ICM) described a method of eliminating the dangerously prevalent greenhouse gas in a way that seemed too good to be true: suck it out of the ocean, allowing it to absorb more CO2 from the air like a giant global sponge. It could be done via a relatively simple electrochemical process miming what nature already does. And a byproduct is hydrogen, arguably the future of storable, carbon-free energy.

Proportionally, "ocean water contains 150 times more carbon dioxide than the air, which means if you want to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere one of the most effective ways to do it is by removing it from the oceans," he told the audience.

Sant's method is more than a science experiment: It's well on the way to commercialization through Equatic, a Los Angeles-based startup that's scaling up the ocean-based CO2 reduction and hydrogen production tech developed by Sant and UCLA scientists. His hope, and that of backers including the Grantham Foundation, Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, Singapore's Temasek Foundation and U.S. Energy Department, which have contributed $30 million so far, is that Equatic will be removing millions of tons of CO2 in the years to come—and do so for less than $100 per ton. Sant also expects the company to generate hydrogen for $1 per kilogram that it can sell or use to help power Equatic's operations.

Two small pilot facilities are operating on barges to prove the approach works: one in Los Angeles that was unveiled for the first time today and a similar one in Singapore. Each can remove 100 kilograms of CO2 and make a few kilograms of hydrogen daily. A larger test plant is to open late next year in Singapore, integrated into a desalination facility, scaled to remove 10 metric tons of CO2 per day or at least 3,500 tons annually. If all goes well, Equatic's goal is to operate large commercial-scale plants capable of eliminating 1 million metric tons of CO2 and making 35,000 metric tons of hydrogen annually by the late 2020s. Ahead of that, the company's goal is to raise a further $100 million and refine the design of its plants.
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Jim Blackwood

As usual, humanity is steaming full speed ahead without any investigation or regard for the consequences. Give 'em a political football and that's the end of the thought process.

Wasn't very long ago the scientists were saying that we are overdue for a mini-ice age and based it on the core samples taken which show the planet's chronological climate history so the projection can be taken as fairly accurate. Why is that overdue? Reason dictates that it is because of greenhouse gasses.

Now we are hell bent on removing those greenhouse gasses and what could possibly go wrong? Oh I dunno, maybe the onset of the overdue ice age? Think that could be a possibility?

They've changed their story to fit the facts as they come out. Now it is no longer Global Warming because they can't substantiate that claim any longer. Now it it Climate Change. The difference is, climate change can be cooler rather than hotter. We've always had climate change, it's called Seasons and Weather. There is also a much longer cycle between ice ages and a more tropical planet. As things stand we are sitting on a balance point between warming and cooling which is why they can't promote global warming any more. Perhaps it might not be a bad thing to shift SLIGHTLY towards cooling, but the consequences if we go too far can be dire indeed. The history of the planet shows that most succinctly. Of course if you'd rather live in Canada, Alaska or Siberia than in Florida or the Mediterranean you might like that.

This balance point depends on a careful relationship of all factors which btw includes humanity's output of heat and even pollution of all types. Humanity's influence is very small, therefore if it is to make any difference at all it must be managed very carefully. We most certainly are not doing that. So now, by shifting all power production and use to renewable and non-carbon based sources we are essentially cruising along at highway speed and then slamming the bus into reverse. This could have unexpected consequences but it is quite forseeable that once the powers that be have succeeded in removing all the carbon burning vehicles from the roads and replacing power generation with wind farms and solar, then converted all heavy industry to electric we could trigger a cascade into runaway planetary cooling that we are then powerless to counteract.

Somebody somewhere really should be looking into this, but as usual, not a word. I suppose we'll just carry on as we are until they start to notice the ice caps growing and then everyone can scream and throw up their hands, run around like chickens with their heads cut off and turn our forests into bonfires to warm us back up. Maybe set off a chain of nukes to boost the heat output. It'd be just about the knee-jerk reaction I would expect.

Jim
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Quote from: Jim Blackwood on April 17, 2023, 07:04:34 AM
As usual, humanity is steaming full speed ahead without any investigation or regard for the consequences. Give 'em a political football and that's the end of the thought process.

Wasn't very long ago the scientists were saying that we are overdue for a mini-ice age and based it on the core samples taken which show the planet's chronological climate history so the projection can be taken as fairly accurate. Why is that overdue? Reason dictates that it is because of greenhouse gasses.

Now we are hell bent on removing those greenhouse gasses and what could possibly go wrong? Oh I dunno, maybe the onset of the overdue ice age? Think that could be a possibility?

They've changed their story to fit the facts as they come out. Now it is no longer Global Warming because they can't substantiate that claim any longer. Now it it Climate Change. The difference is, climate change can be cooler rather than hotter. We've always had climate change, it's called Seasons and Weather. There is also a much longer cycle between ice ages and a more tropical planet. As things stand we are sitting on a balance point between warming and cooling which is why they can't promote global warming any more. Perhaps it might not be a bad thing to shift SLIGHTLY towards cooling, but the consequences if we go too far can be dire indeed. The history of the planet shows that most succinctly. Of course if you'd rather live in Canada, Alaska or Siberia than in Florida or the Mediterranean you might like that.

This balance point depends on a careful relationship of all factors which btw includes humanity's output of heat and even pollution of all types. Humanity's influence is very small, therefore if it is to make any difference at all it must be managed very carefully. We most certainly are not doing that. So now, by shifting all power production and use to renewable and non-carbon based sources we are essentially cruising along at highway speed and then slamming the bus into reverse. This could have unexpected consequences but it is quite forseeable that once the powers that be have succeeded in removing all the carbon burning vehicles from the roads and replacing power generation with wind farms and solar, then converted all heavy industry to electric we could trigger a cascade into runaway planetary cooling that we are then powerless to counteract.

Somebody somewhere really should be looking into this, but as usual, not a word. I suppose we'll just carry on as we are until they start to notice the ice caps growing and then everyone can scream and throw up their hands, run around like chickens with their heads cut off and turn our forests into bonfires to warm us back up. Maybe set off a chain of nukes to boost the heat output. It'd be just about the knee-jerk reaction I would expect.

Jim

You're not wrong at all.

During the 2020 lock downs, they found that despite vehicle usage going down some 80%, the associated CO2 emissions didn't go down that much- in accordance with the models from the IPCC and other governmental bodies. Of course, this isn't widely publicised. In addition the CO2 targets Democrats want us to adhere to in terms of usage are LOWER than what we achieved during the 2020 lock downs. It makes no sense.

The energy consumption to make a vehicle- currently- a gasoline is about 97-125 gigaJoules/Vehciles, a diesel is 99-128, while a BEV is about double that of a gasoline as is a fuel cell vehicle.

No one talks about this.

In addition, with the exception of the pacific north west where there is alot of hydroelectric power- wheel to well calculations dont show a huge benefit in terms of CO2 production for a BEV.

I work in this field, when you start to dig and ask questions like this- you start to see gaping holes.

There's virtually no effort being put into CO2 recapture technologies at all. This is in its infancy but arguably less so than EVs.
Effort could be put into incentivising growing more trees - which  use up CO2 and produce oxygen. But this isn't being considered.

Why is that?

I don't want to hear about carbonfoot prints or being pointed at and called a 'climaet denier' until these questions are answered in a knowledagle manner.

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First Hydrogen releases creative vision for hydrogen powered RV
Hydrogen News
April 19, 2023 1 By BRET WILLIAMS
Canadian and UK based First Hydrogen is aiming to become a leader in the hydrogen powered RV sector. The firm, which specializes in zero-emission automotive development, released a creative concept for its hydrogen-powered RV as an extension of its generation II light commercial vehicle design. The purpose-built recreational vehicle is designed to offer more spacious living and sleeping areas than EV alternatives, and is said to be capable of handling greater weights and driving ranges. It is also capable of refuelling in a similar time to petrol or diesel models, an advantage over recharging, which can take hours.

The company is taking aim at a leadership position in H2 fueled recreational vehicles.
First Hydrogen has announced the release of the creative vision for its first ever hydrogen powered RV, as it places a new focus on the considerable potential of carbon emission-free vehicles in the leisure market.

This step into recreational vehicles opens the door for an entirely new space in the leisure market.
The company is headquartered in Vancouver, Canada and London, UK and is a zero-emission automotive developer. It announced the creative vision for its hydrogen powered RV on the heels of its release of its Generation II light commercial vehicles (LCV) plans. The company's moves are a demonstration of the spectrum of applications to which fuel cell technology is a solid fit for mid-sized and larger vehicles.

Also this:
In 2018 Mercedes came out with their hydrogen RV concept, the F-Cell Sprinter
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Dreadnought

Whatever decision is made (forced upon- as this current administration has weaponised the EPA) as a solution for heavy duty trucks- will likely cascade into RVs. If it's hyrdrogen- than may be it will be hydrogen.

Heavy duty trucks run a very agressive and arduous duty cycle much like RVs and unlike passenger cars.

Hydrogen combustion can be calibrated to run zero NOx emissions, without any penality in terms of hydro carbon emissions.

The challenge is storage, as it needs to be stored as liquid hydrogen under pressure or else in gaseous form- it will diffuse and escape during storage.

The other issue is emissions- it's similar to the whole EV farce, the power generated to make the Hydrogen will incur a CO2 and HC penalty in most power generation methods. And no, hopefully no one here is naive enough to believe that we can go all to renewables predominantly without me having to talk about contingent strategies and stand by scenarios.
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luvrbus

Walmart has teamed up with Cummins,and Chevron,they have 5 of the new ISXN 15 RNG gas engines running from Indiana to CA and Chevron has set up stations to refuel the trucks with CNG .Cummins should have the CNG engines trouble free now they been dealing with the smaller CNG engines for years now
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Dreadnought

Cliff, agreed, Cummins were looking at CNG years ago. We were looking at it on the DT466 at Navistar at least 10 years ago.

This current administration seems to be against anything internal combustion - it defies logic.

Yeahs ago BMW and Honda tried to look into Hydrogen combustion but the EPA said they couldnt catogorise it as a zero emissions fuel because of how Hydrogen is generated and yet- they happily classify EVs as zero emissions.

A short term and cheap way to reduce emissions is to make the compression ignition HD engines configured to run gasoline (but with compression ignition and not spark ignition). Gasoline is cheaper than diesel and it wouldn't involve a whole redesign of the whole engine architechture, mainly the fuel system. The Soot and Nox (trade off) will immediately improve significantly and it would potentially allow OEM manufacturers to drop costly DEF fluid aftertreatment solutions. But this seems to be falling upon deaf ears. Like I said, it defies reason/logic.....


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buswarrior

Cummins hasn't stopped working with natural gas converted diesel blocks since the 80's.

If they don't know, nobody does.

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luvrbus

Quote from: buswarrior on April 20, 2023, 05:49:50 PM
Cummins hasn't stopped working with natural gas converted diesel blocks since the 80's.

If they don't know, nobody does.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Cummins never made a CNG engine with 15L before all the UPS CNG trucks on the interstate were the 11L engines and unpowered for pulling doubles,the brown drivers hated those.CNG burns so clean those will be over a million mile engine like the diesels.
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Layer green hydrogen cars Croft system developed
April 20, 2023 1 By JULIE CAMPBELL
Layer and Croft have partnered to design a new system to retrofit vehicles into green hydrogen cars. They have created the Nanoplant and Nanocartridges, the first prototypes that allow users to produce solid-state H2 for powering hydrogen cars and trucks.

The companies partnered to design a new system to make it possible to retrofit vehicles to run on H2.
Layer and U.S. startup Croft joined forces to design several new products that will make it possible to retrofit vehicles and turn them into green hydrogen cars.

The Croft Nanoplant and Nanocartridges are the first prototypes to result from this partnership.
The first two prototypes for which the project is currently raising funds are the Nanoplant and the Nanocartridges from Croft. They make it possible for users to produce their own solid-state H2 for powering hydrogen cars, trucks and even heavy-duty vehicles.

The Nanoplant looks not unlike a large home battery. It works by using electricity from the grid to electrolyze tap water, splitting the molecules into H2 and O2. If the grid is powered by renewable energy, the product is considered to be green hydrogen. That said, this would depend on the source of power on the grid to which it was connected.

The Nanoplant has a pull-out drawer with a capacity for up to four Nanocartridges for hydrogen cars.
Those are an alternative form of cannister which is where the H2 produced in the Nanoplant is stored. It is stored in the Nanocartridges using a proprietary particulate to which the H2 adheres.

According to Croft, by storing the H2 this way it offers a method of storage at density and at low-pressure, meaning that it is safe while simultaneously providing hydrogen cars with better power and range than their battery electric counterparts.

Croft is "dedicated to creating a blueprint for an enduring, scalable, green-hydrogen economy," said a statement from Layer. It also pointed out that its partner provides its tech with a notably lower price tag than other H2 storage solutions currently on the market or that are approaching their launch.

Layer has stated that the Nanoplant and Nanocartridges are great for hydrogen cars, but that they're ideally suited for larger vehicles operating in environments with few fast-charging options. For instance, pick-up trucks used in farming, construction, forestry, and other industries. Those will be the primary target markets for the launch of these products.

Meant for hydrogen cars and trucks operating in areas not well served by EV charging stations.
hydrogen news ebook"Batteries are great to decarbonise smaller passenger vehicles that get used in gentle, predictable ways with access to good charging infrastructure," said Benjamin Hubert, founder of the Layer creative agency. "However, lots of mobility applications don't match that description, and there, we need a power source that is denser than batteries and has fewer dependencies on infrastructure."

"Hydrogen stores significantly more energy in less space and with less weight than batteries, and it's much easier to use hydrogen in environments with weak grids or where charging otherwise isn't available," added Hubert. He explained that, at least in the near future, hydrogen cars and trucks could provide a complementary zero-emission vehicle alternative to electric vehicle technology, as opposed to being competition.

"It's a great complementary solution to batteries, and as with all things, it's important to pick the right tool for the right job," he stated in a recent Dezeen article.

Retrofitting vehicles to become hydrogen cars and trucks
In order to retrofit vehicles using the system to become hydrogen cars and trucks, Croft removes the majority of the powertrain components. Instead, an H2 storage system, fuel cell, electric motor and other components are installed and the vehicle's onboard computer is reprogrammed in order to operate them.

The Nanoplant and Nanocartridge design and engineering was lead by Layer, which sought to make them as practical and simple to understand and use while also having a robust and technological appearance.


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Rolls-Royce unveils green hydrogen production plans

April 25, 2023 0 By TAMI HOOD
Rolls-Royce has revealed its plans to produce green hydrogen at its Friedrichschafen headquarters and also unveiled its plans for testing fuel cell systems and mtu hydrogen engines. The company has already successfully tested its 250kw fuel cell demonstrator system, which could offer uninterruptible power in the event of an outage. Rolls-Royce aims to start green hydrogen production and follow it through much of the value chain, and is working on developing its own standardized mtu electrolyzers with 4MW outputs with the capacity to scale to over 100MW.

The company also revealed that it is working on plans for H2 fuel cell systems.
Rolls-Royce has announced its new plans for the production of green hydrogen at its Friedrichschafen headquarters. At the same time, it unveiled its plans for testing its fuel cell systems and mtu hydrogen engines.
The company added that its 250kw fuel cell demonstrator has already been successfully tested.
The fuel cell demonstrator system could offer uninterruptible power in the case of an outage.
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