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Started by artvonne, January 26, 2011, 10:40:34 AM

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bevans6

http://www.google.ca/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=D0U&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=MCI%20MC-5&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1269&bih=852

A's and B's have stainless steel siding up the the window line.  C's have aluminium siding above the floor line, stainless below.  Lots of other visual differences on the outside.  the reason for the number built is that after 40 ft buses became the inter-city standard, the 35 ft buses where pretty much special order.  Mine came from the Navajo Nation, in AZ, they run a municipal/intercity bus line and had around 20 MC-5C's.  Notable on mine is zero structural rust, and only a very little surface rust in cubby holes and behind things, and the steering was upgraded to integral steering while in service.  Mine had bifold doors and I installed a swing door from another 5C.  Oddly, the opening in the bus was too small for the door by about 1/2", which caused me no end of grief but I got it on.

There are a ton of good MCI bus links in behind the pictures.  If the link doesn't work, just Google MCI MC-5 and hit the "images" button at the upper left of the screen.  There are a couple of 6's, a 12, some other models in the pictures as well.  Also a resin model kit of the MC-5C that I have to find!

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

5B Steve



   If you go to the section of everyones pictures, I believe mine (better look than what is posted in the profile) page 14 or 15

   you can see a better picture. Thanks to Nick, he was able to post it for me.


   Steve 5B......

artvonne

Quote from: bevans6 on January 27, 2011, 07:53:30 AM

the steering was upgraded to integral steering while in service. 

There are a ton of good MCI bus links in behind the pictures.  If the link doesn't work, just Google MCI MC-5 and hit the "images" button at the upper left of the screen.

Brian

 Do you have to do a lot of refab work to install integral steering, or is it a bolt in? I saw something on some MCI and it looked rather involved. How bad is the integral, sloppy and wandery??


 Trust me, ive typed in MCI 5, MC-5, etc., just aint seeing a lot of the inner workings. We need Bus porn.
 

 

artvonne

Quote from: 5B Steve on January 27, 2011, 08:06:34 AM


   If you go to the section of everyones pictures, I believe mine (better look than what is posted in the profile) page 14 or 15..

  I'll go check it out, thanks.

  Paul~

Tom Y

I put some dropbox pics on the dropbox topic. Hope that helps.  Tom Y
Tom Yaegle

artvonne

Quote from: Tom Y on January 27, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
I put some dropbox pics on the dropbox topic. Hope that helps.  Tom Y

  Thank you, that does answer many of my questions about it. May I assume a guy could pull that cover off the front and see up inside??

  I got some more pics from the seller. The clearance lights are all flush mounted. From what was posted earlier it sounds like a C model, but if they didnt make C's till 77, that dont make sense. Or, maybe its not a 1975.

  Im waiting to hear back about the serial number, maybe someone will know where it came from.

DMoedave

Dont all the 5C's have the 6V71 or did they have the 8 also?
we love our buses!!! NE Pa or LI NY, or somewhere in between!

Ed Hackenbruch

They could have either the 6V71 or the 8V71.
Used to own a 1968 MCI 5A and a 1977 5C.

artvonne

  Upon further research, it is a B.


artvonne

  Does anyone know what gearboxes will fit a 5 with the 871? Is a 7 speed possible with a shortened drive shaft, or does it need a V6 to work?

Ed Hackenbruch

With your driveway i would want an automatic instead of a stick.  I would not have bought my 5 if it had a stick. Used to have sticks in all of my rigs for years, now everything i own is automatic. :)  By the way i average 7.29 mpg with my 5, fully loaded, as we fulltime in the western U.S., and towing a  3800 lb. Jeep Wagoneer  ;D
Used to own a 1968 MCI 5A and a 1977 5C.

artvonne

Quote from: Ed Hackenbruch on January 28, 2011, 05:55:41 AM
  By the way i average 7.29 mpg with my 5, fully loaded, as we fulltime in the western U.S., and towing a  3800 lb. Jeep Wagoneer  ;D

  My understanding is the auto will only fit behind a V-6? 


bevans6

a 740 will fit behind a 6V, a 640 will fit behind an 8V, as far as automatics are concerned.  The 640 is considered marginal for an 8V-71

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

artvonne

  So does anyone know if any other manual gearbox will go ahead of an 8V in something like this??

RJ

Paul -

Quote from: artvonne on January 28, 2011, 04:01:39 PM
So does anyone know if any other manual gearbox will go ahead of an 8V in something like this??

Short answer - Maybe, but probably not.

Things are awfully tight back there on the MC-5s.

That's what happens when you stuff a T-drive into a 35-footer.

Later production MC-9s had a 5-spd manual available.  Not sure if it's a Fuller or a Spicer, nor do I know the dimensions.  Also not sure if 1st is a stump-puller or about the same as an 8844 4-spd.

If it's longer than the 8844, then you'd have to use a 6V.  Not the 71 series tho, you'd need a 92.  Now you get into not only the transmission swap, but also building the intake and exhaust system to offset the turbo, because there isn't room on top for it in a 5.  AND - you'd have to upgrade the radiators to handle the additional heat load of the turbo engine.

Have we driven you crazy yet??   ;D

FWIW & HTH. . .

;)
1992 Prevost XL Vantaré Conversion M1001907 8V92T/HT-755 (DDEC/ATEC)
2003 VW Jetta TDI Sportwagon "Towed"
Cheney WA (when home)