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Air Liquide and Iveco Group open Europe's first high-pressure hydrogen station for trucksJune 30, 2023 0 By ALICIA MOORE

The two companies are paving the way for long-haulage H2-powered mobility in Europe.

The recent inauguration of the first high-pressure hydrogen station for long-haul trucks is the first refueling station of its kind in Europe. It marks a step forward in Air Liquide and Iveco Group's joint commitment to develop hydrogen mobility in the continent.

This commitment is in line with the MoU the companies signed in December 2021.

The goal of the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) is to advance hydrogen as a vital enabler for the energy transition of the transport sector by leveraging the expertise of both companies.

This includes Air Liquide's unique expertise across the entire H2 value chain – production, storage, and distribution – and IVECO's (commercial vehicle brand of Iveco Group) manufacturing of alternative fuel vehicles.

"Our strategy for increasingly sustainable mobility is based on a technology-neutral approach and hydrogen mobility is a key building block on this path," said Iveco Group CEO Gerrit Marx in a news release about the inauguration of the hydrogen station. "In fact, it provides an essential solution for high energy demanding commercial vehicle applications, such as long-haul transport," Marx added.

At the hydrogen station inauguration, guests saw an IVECO H2 truck prototype.

Air Liquide's high-pressure hydrogen refueling station opened in Fos-sur-Mer (Marseille), France on June 26, 2023. Guests who attended the inauguration had the opportunity to visit the large-capacity high-pressure station that is supplied with 1 ton of low-carbon hydrogen a day via pipeline. They were also given a first-hand look at an IVECO heavy-duty fuel cell truck prototype.

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Hydrogen fuel news:
Toyota to use waste to hydrogen in project with Thailand's CP Group
July 1, 2023 0 By BRET WILLIAMS
The automaker is testing equipment for a project to use biogas from Charoen Pokphand Group.
Toyota Motor recently announced that it will be launching a waste to hydrogen project in Thailand starting in November. It plans to work with Thai conglomerate Charoen Pokphand Group, which will supply biogas for H2 production to help decarbonize the Thai transport sector.

Toyota will be installing equipment that will use CP biogas to produce H2 south of Bangkok.
Through this project, the automaker will be installing waste to hydrogen equipment at its Asia-Pacific headquarters located south of Bangkok in Samut Prakan province. It will use biogas to produce the H2. The biogas will be produced by chicken manure from CP Group operated poultry farms. It will also be sourced from food waste from the cafeteria at the Toyota regional headquarters.
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Jim Blackwood

OK, let's do this then... We fit all cows with a fart collector so we can convert their methane production into hydrogen gas. Perfect renewable source that will satisfy all our energy requirements as far into the future as we can project.

Jim
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windtrader

Well well. Now, the debate is about how much fresh water it takes to produce hydrogen. It seems the government just needs to send a free bike to everyone and collect all motor vehicles.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsenergylett.1c01375
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Publication Date:August 17, 2021
https://doi.org/10.1021/acsenergylett.1c01375
Copyright © 2021 American Chemical Society

This article was from Aug 2021.
Since this time there have been major changes in obtaining hydrogen processes, everything from electrolysis, to leaf mimicking evaporation, with more types soon to arrive, as I have shown in articles I have quoted...
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Hydrogen fuel news
Fleet News: Hydrogen Buses Make Their Debut on British Roads
July 7, 2023 1 By ERIN KILGORE
The H2 passenger buses are manufactured by Wrightbust and are part of Go-Ahead Group's fleet.

Go-Ahead Group, a leading bus and rail operator in Britain, recently announced the launch of its pioneering fleet of hydrogen buses, which will be deployed to carry passengers on routes in the Crawley, Horley and Gatwick Airport area.

The fleet will consist of 54 fuel cell buses.
At present, only 20 hydrogen fuel cell buses will be deployed. However, once the remaining 34 hydrogen buses are fully delivered, there will be a total of 54 vehicles, making it one of the largest hydrogen bus fleets in the nation.

The zero-emission buses manufactured by Wrightbus are the first in Go-Ahead's over 6,000 fleet of buses to be powered by hydrogen. They are capable of carrying heavy loads and covering long ranges, making them ideal for local routes around the intensively used Gatwick area, as they can operate 24 hours a day, all year long.
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windtrader

Good to hear. Fleet deployments make a lot of sense until the fueling infrastructure gets buiilt out beyond hubs.
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luvrbus

Man 10,500 views I never saw that before ,I have seen more responses, guessing a alternative fuel is on some peoples mind
Life is short drink the good wine first

lvmci

H2 news
Nikola and Bosch partner up to create improved fuel cell truck
July 20, 2023 0 By JULIE CAMPBELL
The companies are working together to take the Tre long haul vehicle to the next level in H2.
Nikola and Bosch have announced that they plan to work together to create a new and improved fuel cell truck, pointing to a firm belief in the strength of a future H2 economy.

The companies will have their engineers working as a team to upgrade the current Nikola Tre.
Bosch recently used its entire Tech Day 2023 to focus on its plans to move forward with a fuel cell truck and other green hydrogen technologies, such as Bosch's new renewable H2 water treatment system.

Bosch is hardly new to zero-emission vehicles. It has already been contributing powerful technology for the electric vehicle industry. As a result, it's not too surprising that it is now making its way into H2 technology.

What has truly caught people's attention is that it has chosen to work with Nikola. That company's Tre Class-8 long-haul truck was a project that first launched in 2017. At that time, the companies announced that they would be working together to develop the powertrain through the use of Bosch's modular and scalable all-in-one eAxle. They expected production to start by 2021.

The hydrogen fuel cell truck experienced a delay in its launch when Nikola faced issues in 2020.
That setback didn't last very long, though. Nikola and Bosch once again announced that they would be working together in September of 2021, as Nikola would be building fuel cell power modules for Bosch at its Arizona factory. These would be used for Nikola's Class 7 and Class 8 fuel cell truck models. This was to start with the Tre Class 8, which had a 500-mile range. It would then expand to the Nikola Tre Class 8, with its 900-mile range...

That said, next up will be the United States. Beyond the ongoing work Bosch is doing with Nikola, it also has intentions for vehicles in South Carolina. In fact, the recent press release was an official confirmation that the South Carolina facility will be manufacturing the fuel cell stacks for hydrogen-powered vehicles...
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Jim Blackwood

Interesting to note that while hydrogen may be feasible for large vehicles, the lower density is not enough to make it's use in smaller vehicles practical since the required fuel volume is something on the order of 5-10 times as much as is needed with gasoline, essentially leaving no space for cargo.

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windtrader

I've seen fuel cell vehicles running around here, no surprise being Sacramento, eco-politics central. Google some images of the Toyota Mirai and Huyandai Nexo. https://carbuzz.com/cars/hydrogen-cars. From the images it seems there is reasonable trunk and hatch storage. Hard to tell how the larger fuel storage is tucked into the body. Take a look at this chart, confirms increase fuel capacity but with the much higher MPG why is the range so low?
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Jim Blackwood

They will play with the numbers to get the best marketing. Can't trust those kind of people, as they will say anything to get you to bite. Need actual real world results.

Jim
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How Many Gasoline Cars Catch Fire Every Year
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How Many Gasoline Cars Catch Fire Every Year

There are an estimated 284,130 gasoline cars that catch fire every year

Data Last Checked: November 19, 2022


You may be surprised to learn how many gasoline cars catch fire each year. According to our analysis of data found in the National Fire Protection Association, Reuters, and U.S. fire departments, there are an estimated 284,130 gasoline cars that catch fire every year.

These vehicle fires account for an estimated 480 deaths, 1,525 injuries, and $1.3 billion in property damage annually in the United States.
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Quote from: lvmci on July 25, 2023, 08:21:04 AM
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Home » Data & Research

How Many Gasoline Cars Catch Fire Every Year
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Quick Answer

How Many Gasoline Cars Catch Fire Every Year

There are an estimated 284,130 gasoline cars that catch fire every year

Data Last Checked: November 19, 2022


You may be surprised to learn how many gasoline cars catch fire each year. According to our analysis of data found in the National Fire Protection Association, Reuters, and U.S. fire departments, there are an estimated 284,130 gasoline cars that catch fire every year.

These vehicle fires account for an estimated 480 deaths, 1,525 injuries, and $1.3 billion in property damage annually in the United States.

Ah I hear you, given the number of gasoline cars that are running around out there. But very, very few hydrogen vehicles. So for sometime to come every such event will make national news just like light airplane crashes...