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usbusin · March 07, 2021, 06:34:12 AM

Is this article correct? And how is it going to affect older buses registered as motorhomes?

https://www.rvtravel.com/california-mandatory-motorhome-emissions-testing/

luvrbus · March 07, 2021, 06:43:37 AM

Everyone knew it was coming ,I have friend that makes blowers for hot rods he cannot even buy a blower from 2 stroke in CA now he moved his shop here to Az,another friend has closed his injector shop in CA he could only sell injectors for 2 strokes out side of CA.CARB writes rules that are not even published for several years it sucks,they do not want a diesel engine in the state that was made before 2010,Carb has another rule if a diesel vehicle like a service truck say a 1 ton has 200,000 miles without DEF (was 300,000) it has to leave the state,those are going cheap with a crane, welder and air compressor I looked at one for 5G for sale here

David Anderson · March 07, 2021, 07:12:03 AM

Wow, the value of our coaches just keep going down, don't they?

Some of the nicest conversions in the country have CA license plates. I know. I've seen them at Quartzsite and other bus rallies.

luvrbus · March 07, 2021, 07:19:25 AM

Quote from: David Anderson on March 07, 2021, 07:12:03 AM
Wow, the value of our coaches just keep going down, don't they?

Yep you can buy 45 ft buses with series 60 in CA for 5 grand made in 2000

Dave5Cs · March 07, 2021, 07:41:54 AM

Looks like it was a good time to leave the state. Everyone will be registering in North Dakota now, LOL

luvrbus · March 07, 2021, 07:56:49 AM

Quote from: Dave5Cs on March 07, 2021, 07:41:54 AM
Looks like it was a good time to leave the state. Everyone will be registering in North Dakota now, LOL

Hard to give up the place where you lived but sometimes it has to happen CA is such a beautiful state to be so screwed up by politics

freds · March 07, 2021, 08:05:33 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on March 07, 2021, 07:19:25 AM

Yep you can buy 45 ft buses with series 60 in CA for 5 grand made in 2000

Crap maybe I should give up on my 1980 Prevost and go for something 20 years newer. Dang I am hard headed will probably just bull through until it's up to my expectations.

richard5933 · March 07, 2021, 08:18:03 AM

Since most of our older buses don't have an OBD port, they will be doing a visual opacity test. "What if your motorhome doesn't have an OBD port that the test gear can hook up to? Then your rig is subject to an opacity test and a "visual inspection." The opacity test means your tailpipe emissions are analyzed. Essentially, how smoky is the stuff coming out of your tail pipe? If it's too smoky, you lose. Time for a repair."

buswarrior · March 07, 2021, 08:46:30 AM

And what is Good Sam, FMCA and others that we pay, doing about this???

No point belonging to a camping advocacy group, if they aren't advocating...

And they should have been on top of this before and during, not afterwards.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

luvrbus · March 07, 2021, 09:35:16 AM

Quote from: richard5933 on March 07, 2021, 08:18:03 AM
Since most of our older buses don't have an OBD port, they will be doing a visual opacity test. "What if your motorhome doesn't have an OBD port that the test gear can hook up to? Then your rig is subject to an opacity test and a "visual inspection." The opacity test means your tailpipe emissions are analyzed. Essentially, how smoky is the stuff coming out of your tail pipe? If it's too smoky, you lose. Time for a repair."

LOL good old CARB electronic diesel buses don't OBD ports either tail pipe testing will pickup more than smoke FWIW

chessie4905 · March 07, 2021, 10:20:40 AM

whats Good Sam and FMCA doing about it? Not a thing. Till California gets rid of the embedded political establishment, nothing will change. They have their own unwavering rigid agenda. We have 49 other states to move to. California is a place to just visit anymore. Sam Kinnison said something about deserts once thats applicable.

uncle ned · March 07, 2021, 11:27:38 AM

I guess HUGGY is exempt from traveling to California just like she is exempt from Canada.

Cannot cross the border with her armory. LOL

Right Don Fairchild. When are you coming back to NC and see something green.

uncle ned

usbusin · March 07, 2021, 04:24:56 PM

On another forum several people said they thought this was a "scare" story and they could not see where recreational vehicles were mentioned in the 52 page draft regulations. They thought it was irresponsible for RVTravel magazine to publish this article.

Does anyone else see where rv's are mentioned?

luvrbus · March 07, 2021, 04:47:24 PM

Only place you get the true facts from CARB is from a emission testing station like my friend owns in CA,I read stuff there that is no where to be found on a CARB public published document

buswarrior · March 07, 2021, 04:52:43 PM

In regulation writing, both the inclusion, or the exclusion of words can spell disaster.

It all depends on the definitions of the words they do use.

Capturing all vehicles over a certain weight is the big capture, intended or not, that sweeps us up...

This is why our advocacy groups have to be more serious than fluffy reporting of the latest RV furnishing colours...

Maybe we could get the trucking associations to watch out for us as a side job...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior