Is this a reversed tag axle rim?

Scott & Heather · February 24, 2016, 05:12:51 PM

Is this an MCI with the deep dish side of the rim facing out on the tag axle?

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zimmysurprise · February 24, 2016, 05:18:18 PM

It's offset from the drive axle- a super single?

luvrbus · February 24, 2016, 05:22:13 PM

Yep you see that I did the same on my MCI 8 and it ate tag axle tires up in a hurry but looked good

Flight102C3 · February 25, 2016, 06:19:28 AM

What size of rim and offset would that be. Is there any chance of more pictures? Thanks for now

TomC · February 25, 2016, 07:07:49 AM

As Clifford said, it may look good, but eats up tires. That's because the offset of the wheel throws off the alignment of the tire. And you put undue stress on the outer wheel bearing.
When we first came out with the super singles, the wheel manufacturers simply made a 14" wide wheel that was offset to the outside by 2". Freightliner quickly found out that put undue stress on the outer wheel bearing and for those truckers that are at maximum gross weight all the time, made for wheel bearing failure. Now the only way you can get super singles is with a mid width axle that allows the super single wheel to have a zero offset. You can still convert it back to duals, it's just that the duals will be out to 102" now with the wider axle. Good Luck, TomC

luvrbus · February 25, 2016, 07:32:37 AM

The tag on the D is only inset 1 inch from the outside dual I am thinking about moving it out flush with rear dual since it has a follow along tag I don't believe tire wear would be a problem, then again it could be I am finding out the people that design the buses knew what they were doing most of the time

buswarrior · February 25, 2016, 10:33:49 AM

as noted, tag axles and their tires have been carefully positioned for the suspension to do its job, both for turning forces and straight ahead stability.

Best to focus on other areas of customization?

happy coaching!
buswarrior

kyle4501 · February 25, 2016, 04:51:30 PM

My Newell came with the tag dished in so that it looks like the drive axle outer wheel. It is about 1 inch inset. No problems or concerns over tire wear.

sledhead · February 26, 2016, 04:54:09 AM

Kyle I sent you a pm

dave

luvrbus · February 26, 2016, 05:27:00 AM

All the RV manufactures turn the dish out on the tag, Newell with the monsters they are building now turn the dish in on the later models just like the buses

bigred · February 27, 2016, 05:45:23 AM

Wonder what Bluebird used.All of their tags were turned in .I never really looked at one up close but I am fairly certain that the tag ran in perfect alignment with the outer tire on the drive wheel.

TomC · February 27, 2016, 09:03:21 AM

Course the best is the MCI cargo or the GM PD4501 with true tandem duals. I don't think I'll get stuck as easy as a bus since my truck both has tandem duals and dual drive with lockup. Good Luck, TomC

kyle4501 · February 27, 2016, 05:51:57 PM

Quote from: luvrbus on February 26, 2016, 05:27:00 AM
All the RV manufactures turn the dish out on the tag, Newell with the monsters they are building now turn the dish in on the later models just like the buses

The addition of slides, granite, & marble have pushed the weights up so high that the highest capacity axles are being loaded to maximum capacity.
Also, when the tag rim is dished in like the steer, there is more room for things under the coach.

Mine weighs 36000# full of fuel, I've seen where some of the new ones are twice that.

digesterman · February 28, 2016, 04:49:51 PM

Pretty sure 55,000 is max for 3 axles

luvrbus · February 28, 2016, 05:07:33 PM

The new Newells are rated at 63,300 GVW we have a friend that owns 1 and I love the Porsche dash in the Newells it's something else