Chassis electrical problem
 

Chassis electrical problem

Started by Nick Badame Refrig/ACC, March 09, 2014, 06:49:34 PM

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Nick Badame Refrig/ACC

Hi Guy's,

Started up my coach today.  All my dash gauges were not working..  I also noticed that my turn signals/4 ways

were not working. Only half my marker lights were lit. I went into the front electrical box and looked for loose or

burns at the circuit breakers but none found. Everything else seems to be working.

Question, do the dash gauges operate on 12v or 24v?

1989 102C3

Thanks for any help in advance!
Nick-
Whatever it takes!-GITIT DONE! 
Commercial Refrigeration- Ice machines- Heating & Air/ Atlantic Custom Coach Inc.
Master Mason- Cannon Lodge #104
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Van

Nick, not sure about the gauges now, but it's been awhile. The lights are 24v, I do remember there being a 12 tap from the vanner down below. The dash illumination bulbs IIRC are 24v also  ;) I would start checking the relays. Good luck  :)

  Van
B&B CoachWorks
Bus Shop Mafia.
Now in N. Cakalaki

Nick Badame Refrig/ACC

Thank Van,

I was thinking the gauges were 12v.. The dash lights are working.

Time to start snooping.

Nick-
Whatever it takes!-GITIT DONE! 
Commercial Refrigeration- Ice machines- Heating & Air/ Atlantic Custom Coach Inc.
Master Mason- Cannon Lodge #104
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Nick Badame Refrig/ACC

Found it..

I opened up the drivers electrical panel and started testing all the circuits and

found power at all gauge terminals. Then I said to myself, I should call US Coach

and see if they came across this problem before.. Sure enough, Bill answered the

phone and within 10 seconds of asking him this question he pointed me right to

the ground terminals where I found 1 rotted completely off!! What a great guy!!

The ground terminals are at the bottom of the compartment where they are

notorious for corroding. Ran a jumper to the terminal and dash gauges worked!

Thank You again US Coach! (Bill & Luke)

Nick-
Whatever it takes!-GITIT DONE! 
Commercial Refrigeration- Ice machines- Heating & Air/ Atlantic Custom Coach Inc.
Master Mason- Cannon Lodge #104
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Nick Badame Refrig/ACC

All fixed up.

Made a new stud block for all 36 terminals..
Whatever it takes!-GITIT DONE! 
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lostagain

Well done! We had the same corrosion  problem with the D3.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

lvmci

Hi Nick, grounds always seem to be the issue in MCIs, so much so I always look for that first, lvmci...
MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

gumpy

FYI, pretty sure your guages are 24v, but could be mistaken. Only thing 12v on the the MCI is the blower relay in the rear compartment (and maybe some secondary equipment
like radios and meters, etc).

Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

Nick Badame Refrig/ACC

Craig,

The only reason I was thinking they were 12v was because my 12v power port on my dash also didn't work.

Turns out that power port was tied to the same broken ground lug as the dash gauges... :o

Oh BTW, I got your check this past Friday. Tks!

Nick-
Whatever it takes!-GITIT DONE! 
Commercial Refrigeration- Ice machines- Heating & Air/ Atlantic Custom Coach Inc.
Master Mason- Cannon Lodge #104
https://www.facebook.com/atlanticcustomcoach
www.atlanticcustomcoach.com

Jriddle

Quote from: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on March 10, 2014, 06:10:26 PM
Oh BTW, I got your check this past Friday. Tks!

Nick-

Craig
I suppose the rest of our checks are in the Mail. LOL
John
John Riddle
Townsend MT
1984 MC9

gumpy

Quote from: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on March 10, 2014, 06:10:26 PM
The only reason I was thinking they were 12v was because my 12v power port on my dash also didn't work.

Aww... that information would have been the smoking gun that pointed to a ground issue. The common denominator.

I'm going out on a limb a bit saying your guages are 24 volt because I don't actually have experience with the 102, but I believe that's something
MCI didn't change from earlier versions, such as my MC9.  A quick check of the electrical schematic would confirm it, but I don't have one for the 102.


Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

gumpy

Quote from: Jriddle on March 10, 2014, 06:42:50 PM
I suppose the rest of our checks are in the Mail. LOL

You didn't receive yours yet?  Must be "lost in the mail". Probably cause I didn't have your beachfront address.  ::)

Or as the Brits say, "The checks in the post!"

Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"