Used Fuel Tanks as Holding and Water Tanks
 

Used Fuel Tanks as Holding and Water Tanks

Started by HB of CJ, January 29, 2008, 04:11:26 PM

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HB of CJ

Got a line on some nice steel and aluminumiumium truck tractor fuel tanks at the local, friendly and inexpensive ($cheap$) heavy truck wrecking yard.  Fifties, 75's, 100's and a few 125's. Kinda square.  Could they be cleaned out to the point that use as fresh water tanks would not be out of the question?  Would frame mount on the Crown.  Which cleaning method would work best?  Sand blast?  Live steam?  Pressure wash?  Dedicated sealing/coating?  All of the above?  Or...not a good idea for drinking water?  I dunno.  :) :) :)

tekebird


Reddog

Seems like cleaning, then sealing with Redcoat, Johnsons fuel tank liner, Kreem or something similar should work, but I doubt you would ever get rid of the taste. No more than what a good new freshwater tank costs, I'd go new on the fresh and consider used on waste.
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kyle4501

Passivation? (chemical surface treatment)

I still wouldn't use it for drinking water, but quite possibly for showers & flushing.

Obviously great for waste water.
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PP

A very knowledgeable gentleman that worked for many years in the steel industry told me once that metal is porous and has a memory, DON'T USE THEM FOR DRINKING WATER

belfert

Aren't water towers steel?  But, I think they use epoxy paint in them and they were never exposed to fuel. 

I personally would not use a steel tank for freshwater.
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rv_safetyman

If you choose to use the tank, AND use a good quality interior surface treatment, I think you would be OK with one provision.  Install a top level dual cartridge filter system for drinking water.  they are cheap (big box stores) and do a fantastic job.  Install a separate line with the filters in it and a drinking water faucet. 

I always put a bit of Clorox in the tank if they sit for more than a few weeks.  On this trip I forgot and drew my drinking water out of the normal faucet.  It tasted terrible.  I then got water out of the drinking water faucet and I could not smell or taste the chlorine.

The issue with the fuel tank is two fold:  taste and health.  The filters should take care of the taste.  From a health standpoint, If the tank was used for diesel, I don't think it would have any lead.  I am not sure if any other fuel chemicals would be dangerous.  Because of the very small concentration (after proper treating) I can't believe health issues would be significant.

I am not an expert on the health issues, so make sure you do reasonable research.

Jim
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kyle4501

Isn't oil used in the manufacturing process at the steel mills when they make the plate/ sheet stock? Most has some oil treatment to reduce rusting in storage before being used to fabricate the end product.

So, how do 'they' get all this contamination out of the pores before using it for potable water? (not just the tanks, but the piping, pumps, & etc.)

I'd think that the good filters would be a great idea regardless of what you use for tanks 'cause some water sources may not be as clean as you'd like . . .

Clean out a tank as well as you can, treat it as desired, then fill it with water & let it sit for a week. Draw some out into a glass. Does it have an unpleasant odor or taste? Have it tested to see what's in it compared to tap water. Then you'll have the real answer for your situation.

Cheers!  ;D
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JohnEd

HB,

Use that tank for fresh water but NOT for drinking water.  Go to the hardware store and get a gallon size bag of Plumber's Lye.  Fill your tank with COLD water and then SLOWLY add the lye.  The fuel and any other petro compound will be gone after you rinse.  Let it stand a few hours.  The water will not leave you smelling like a 8V71 but taste is something else.  Carry jugs of water for drinking and cooking.  Better yet, take lots of beer for both.  That tank will rust and the motion of the coach will keep it stirred up.  I think those coatings are spendy but you would have a strong rust free tank.  The aluminum tank sounds better.

HTH,

John
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JohnEd

Oh yeah...get a coating that is specified good for potable water tanks.  You might end up worse of than with the fuel.  My caution.

John
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TomC

Personally would only use the best stainless steel or plastic for fresh water, with plastic being the first choice since it can't rust (only the most expensive stainless doesn't rust-which would probably cost way more than a plastic tank). Plastic tanks properly supported will last just about forever.  On my big rig, I had a 20 gal black tank and 25 gal gray tank mounted on the fuel tank cross members on a plywood platform with angle iron perimeter support with the drive shaft right above and exposed to everything that goes under a truck.  They were on for 12 years and over 700,000 miles with no problems.  Good Luck, TomC
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TomCat

It seems to me that new, safe, plastic tanks are just too cheap to take a chance on a used fuel tank as a fresh water supply.

Jay
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On The High Plains of Colorado

Sojourner

And chlorine bleach will corrode aluminum tanks.
RV plastic tanks is the most practical, low cost in the long run.

FWIW

Sojourn for Christ,
Jerry

HB of CJ

Thank you everyone.  About what I thought, but wasn't sure.  Nothing worse than bad water.  Don't laugh, but for right now, the plan is still on employing food grade 55 gallon water/container barrels as fresh and holding tanks.  The $price$ is right at $15.00 each.  :) :) :)

JohnEd

HB,

Those square tanks would be ideal for holding BioD or WVO in your bus.  Thoughts for the future.  Any body near you want them?

FWIW,

John
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The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light."
—Pla