Another E bayer that thinks he has a PD4501 Scenic-Cruiser ....

superpickle · December 13, 2007, 08:38:08 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-GMC-4905-Scenic-Cruiser-Coach_W0QQitemZ250197481548QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6728QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Len Silva · December 13, 2007, 09:59:03 AM

Looks like they changed it to "Buffalo". If this really is a Custom Coach conversion from new, it could be a very good deal for the right person.

My wife says that it's not me.

Len

tekebird · December 13, 2007, 11:15:15 AM

it is no doubt a custom coach conversion

Green-Hornet · December 13, 2007, 02:03:49 PM

"If the motor ran right now, the coach would be driveable"

Gotta luv a good auction!

buddydawg · December 13, 2007, 02:08:07 PM

If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his .....well you know....

tekebird · December 13, 2007, 02:11:59 PM

heck for what he wants for it if it had no motor at all it would be a deal...even with no generator.

buddydawg · December 13, 2007, 02:20:28 PM

It is one of my favorite buses. The seller seems to be forthcoming about its actual condition and I dig the shifter.

pabusnut · December 13, 2007, 05:36:11 PM

WoW !!

This is a "brother" or "sister" to my bus which is PD4905A-333.

Mine was operated by Missouri, Kansas & Oklahoma Lines (MK&O) as M731 which is still visible on the entrance door (both inside & out).

They must have ordered many of their busses with the "hidden" bogie or tag axle. I've always been curious why they even bothered since it only added 5,000 to the GVW but weighed 2,200 lb?

It looks like this might be a very good deal for someone!

Steve Toomey
pabusnut

tekebird · December 13, 2007, 08:39:53 PM

JLV,,,,, time to call up DERF and confirm that the Delivery roster is correct.

roadrunnertex · December 13, 2007, 08:54:13 PM

History is correct it's a ex MK&O P8M4905A.
jlv

tekebird · December 13, 2007, 09:09:32 PM

Think this might deserve some extra research......most of the units that went to Converters or were sold as shells were listed as No Record........Oddly the next serial number is a no record bus.

Find it odd that MKO would purchase the bus only to sell off well before the normal sell off period.

Do you know this bus John?

RJ · December 13, 2007, 09:36:55 PM

Quote from: tekebird on December 13, 2007, 08:39:53 PM

JLV,,,,, time to call up DERF and confirm that the Delivery roster is correct.

Doug -

Who's DERF??? PM me if you want. . . I'm the one who provided the history info on this coach to the seller.

The delivery roster I have shows the next S/N as going to South Carolina State College.

Different rosters???

roadrunnertex · December 14, 2007, 08:24:50 AM

Derf Namyar,

(Fred Rayman) spelled backwards.
Fred Rayman is a now retired.He was a bus driver/bus historian for Jefferson Lines/Oklahoma Transportation Company,Oklahoma City,OK.
Fred had a Derf Namyar name plate that he used when he was still driving.
Bus passengers would ask what kind of a name is Derf Namyar?And his reply would be.It's a Gypsy name from Bohemia in Eastern Europe.
The reply back from the passenger would be a very puzzled look.
He would have people thinking that at the meal stop in rural Arkansas to be sure you try the possum hamburgers.
Now you know who Derf is.
jlv

roadrunnertex · December 14, 2007, 09:27:00 AM

This P8M4905A was converted by Custom Coach new from the factory for MK&O in Tulsa,Oklahoma.
The coach was never used in passenger service only for special charter work for MK&O.
It was sold by MK&O in the in the mid 90's.
This is from Fred Rayman in OKC,OK.
jlv

Charles Seaton · December 14, 2007, 11:19:50 AM

Very tempting. A 6V92 and V730 would be nice.