Tail Light Positions

[gpatom]

Okay guys, got a steak dinner bet with wife on this one. On our conversion we are putting two red lights for the stop and tail and one amber for the turn signal on each side of the bus. Should the amber lights go on the inside of the red lights or the outside...........Thanks

[Dreamscape]

My Eagle has amber inbetween red. What kind of bus is it?

Happy Trails,

Paul

Dreamscape

[Dallas]

Put one on eachside and one in the middle, then build a flasher unit like the old T-Birds had.. sequential flashing! 

[gpatom]

I have a '87 Neoplan Metroliner. Well I should say originally it was. Now it is a Neoplan Coach. I have put a 14' x 3' slideout that works on a electric hydraulic system. Stripped it almost completely down to frame and added back steel on both sides with R.V. windows. I the reinforced framing for strength. I have put polished aluminum bumpers, wheels as well as chrome electric mirrors. I am hoping the 2 roof airs will be enough. Put in a vented propane fireplace for heat ( don't plan on being in real cold weather) LOL. Hopefully we will have it finished by the end of August and wife and I will be on the road. Going to sell our home here in Ca. and travel awhile. We have a R.V. lot in AZ. when we get tired of roaming around. Hope to meet some of you fellas on the road or at a rally sometime.  Gpatom

[tekebird]

there is no standard, and on transit buses it is an owner spec item.

no steak for either of you....or buy each other a steak

[gpatom]

Okay we came to a compromise and took Dreamscapes suggestion and decided to put the amber between the reds. So yes so be it we will buy each others steak, of course I will get off cheaper because she will have a smaller steak
LOL.  Thanks guys

[Busted Knuckle]

Okay we came to a compromise and took Dreamscapes suggestion and decided to put the amber between the reds. So yes so be it we will buy each others steak, of course I will get off cheaper because she will have a smaller steak
LOL.  Thanks guys

Yeah but what if she has the bottle of wine added to your tab? LOL! BK 

[gpatom]

Hey Busted Knuckle, you just had to bust my bubble Thanks.........

[superpickle]

Get rid of the Wife. Keep the Tail lights 
Just think of How many tail lights you can get for the price of a Steak dinner 

[Dallas]

Get rid of the Wife. Keep the Tail lights 
Just think of How many tail lights you can get for the price of a Steak dinner 

Get rid of the Wife?

Think of how many tail lights you could buy for the cost of an EXwife!

[Kristinsgrandpa]

I have a 1988 Neoplan AN 340 Metroliner and the tail lights are still in the original stock position and they are as follows:

The outside lens are amber, the next two are red, the next one is clear and the inside lens is red.  That's right it has 5 lights on each side.

I hope you won the bet. I hate to lose a bet to a woman.

Ed.

[gpatom]

What get rid of wife  . Oh no can't do that, to old to start over. And by the way Ed my wife said the amber should be on the outside then the two reds sooo hate to tell you but........ . Any way we did decide on putting the amber in the middle of the reds on each side, my Plan had only three tail lights on each side, and all were red. Maybe they had been switched I don't know, I purchased it from Riverside transit. Been doing this conversion for the last three years by myself, well almost by myself, did have some input from wifey.  Be real happy to get it wrapped up soon, all though been told you never get it completely done, but sure gonna try.........Tom

[RJ]

Tom -

FYI, on the RTS Transit, and the GMC 4108/4905s that came from the factory OEM with amber turn signals on the rear, the amber lenses were on the outside.

Since you're in CA, also look at all the Crown and other skoolies running around.  You'll see that regardless of whether or not it's a horizontal or vertical arrangement of the rear lights, the vast majority of amber turn signals are at the more visible end of the cluster, not in the middle.

And that's the point I'm making:  From a safety perspective, your amber turn signals will be more visible to other motorists if they're not surrounded by other lights.

(Climbs up on soapbox:) 

Personally, I think that EVERY vehicle, be it a car, bus, truck, trailer, fifth-wheel, etc., should have amber turn signals on the rear.

(Climbs down from soapbox)

Under lower lighting conditions, such as rain or fog, your eye will see the amber before it will see the red.  Your eye will also see the amber faster/easier on a bright day when the sun's at your back and reflecting off the vehicle in front of you.

If you can see it better, so can others around you.

BTW, the transit system in Sacramento orders their newer coaches with seven turn signals on each side of the coach: one up front, one on either side of the front axle, one in the middle of the coach, one on either side of the rear axle, and one on the rear.  There's no way you can miss those flashing lights!! 

If you can use the new LED units, more power to you, as the better ones are not only brighter, but flash more distinctively than incandescents.

Oh, and another thought:  If you're going to be using two brake/tail lights on each side, why not wire them in such a way that only one is lit as a taillight, but both come on when the brakes are applied.  That, in essence, literally doubles the red lights on the back when you hit the brakes.  Better attention getter that way.

IMHO, what price safety??

FWIW & HTH. . .



PS: I'll gladly take a gift card to Claimjumpers for the above. . .   

[Jeremy]

(Climbs up on soapbox:) 

Personally, I think that EVERY vehicle, be it a car, bus, truck, trailer, fifth-wheel, etc., should have amber turn signals on the rear.

(Climbs down from soapbox)

One of the biggests costs / hassles when importing Yank cars into the UK is having to completely change the lighting system (fitting amber turn signals ('indicators' as we call them), fitting left-dipping headlights, fitting rear fog-lights, modifying the wiring so the brake lights don't flash etc). It's not too bad on a vehicle which is also sold for export (hence the parts are available), but on anything interesting (such as an old muscle car for instance) it can be a major problem. On the amber turn signals specifically, as far as I know America is the only country that doesn't use them

Jeremy

[gpatom]

Thanks Russ for ur input. Yes I am using the LED's and of course safety is always a first concern of mine, not only for myself but for the other guy. Now I am starting to think maybe I should go to the outside with the amber lights.
All you guys have been real helpful. Thanks again....
Tom