Registering your bus in the state of Vermont

Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM · June 30, 2023, 07:16:04 PM

For anyone considering registering your bus in the state of Vermont, or if you have already registered your bus in that state, you may want to be cognizant of their new rules as outlined in this attachment.

Does this affect anyone here?

Dave5Cs · July 01, 2023, 07:57:50 AM

Wow sounds like Vermont-aforia.

windtrader · July 02, 2023, 10:07:55 AM

This is an example of states across the country that are clamping down on title and register of vehicles owned by non-residents. The ones i understand that still have this available are Montana, Utah, and Arizona to some degree.
For those CA residents, my extensive research into titling and registering a vehicle and operating on CA roadways is violating the CA laws and regulations. I recently pursued purchase of a military humvee to run on the roads in CA on out of state plates. It is illegal, simple as that.

CARB has new regulations in force starting this year that are coming after the older buses including those titled as housecar/motorhome. One option was to tile/register out of state but that is a dead end in my book. Anybody can do it just fine until you get pulled over. CHP even has a webpage where you can report vehicles running out of state plates. lol

Van · July 02, 2023, 10:54:08 AM

I think there's a few old sayings about snitches, pick one.

luvrbus · July 02, 2023, 02:22:47 PM

Quote from: Van on July 02, 2023, 10:54:08 AM
I think there's a few old sayings about snitches, pick one.

They have had snitches for out of state plates for years in CA,makes you wonder how hard they would come down on a person with CA drivers license with a RV with out of state plates registered with the same name on the drivers license.AZ doesn't give a s*** all they want is the 50 + bucks for the plates for 5 years ,AZ has started to require AZ insurance they give a 60 days grace period to change over,our insurance rate here in the valley are not bad at all Scottsdale and Phoenix have CA rates

luvrbus · July 02, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

Quote from: windtrader on July 02, 2023, 10:07:55 AM
This is an example of states across the country that are clamping down on title and register of vehicles owned by non-residents. The ones i understand that still have this available are Montana, Utah, and Arizona to some degree.
For those CA residents, my extensive research into titling and registering a vehicle and operating on CA roadways is violating the CA laws and regulations. I recently pursued purchase of a military humvee to run on the roads in CA on out of state plates. It is illegal, simple as that.

CARB has new regulations in force starting this year that are coming after the older buses including those titled as housecar/motorhome. One option was to tile/register out of state but that is a dead end in my book. Anybody can do it just fine until you get pulled over. CHP even has a webpage where you can report vehicles running out of state plates. lol

Can you title a Humvee in CA ?

windtrader · July 03, 2023, 10:00:23 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on July 02, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

Can you title a Humvee in CA ?

Clifford,I got a bug to get a military humvee, I have no interest in the civilian AM General Hummer H1. I spent a lot of time researching the market and the regulations. At first nothing made any sense. Prices were all over the place and lots of chatter about title/registering in various states. Each state has its own quirks so there is not single answer.
California, no surprise, is the most difficult to deal with. From what I gather until 2017, CA did allow title/register of military tactical vehicles, smog and FVMSS exempt. In 2017 CA DMV issued a regulation that stopped it. So, today the only legal humvee for on road use are those titled before 2017. The only other way is to register the vehicle in another state making it legal but not legal to be driven on the road in CA by a CA resident. So, you could have one titled/registered in AZ and drive it in CA with your AZ license.

What is going on now is CARB is getting their hammer out and telling DMV to hold registrations on the legal pre-2017 humvees. They are absolutely going to get diesels off the road so they are basically banning legally titled humvees from being registered to be driven on the road. So, I guess you can still own it but can't drive it. I do not know if they can apply for historical plates but that might be an option but that comes with its own restrictions but at least it can be on the road within the guidelines. Dealing with the bus BS and CARB this year is enough. LOL

luvrbus · July 03, 2023, 11:59:30 AM

Military Humvees don't have a title how do register one,In Az they will give you ATV plate only,I am so cheap I don't even have the ATV plate for mine,Humvee's are fun to play with if the engine doesn't blow up,I am looking for GM Duramax for one now

Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM · July 03, 2023, 09:14:00 PM

If you drive your Humvee into LA Cliff, this is what they will do to it.

https://youtu.be/bh8j_N0OUSE

And if you make them mad, they will put you in the front seat first.

windtrader · July 05, 2023, 11:39:53 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on July 03, 2023, 11:59:30 AM
Military Humvees don't have a title how do register one,In Az they will give you ATV plate only,I am so cheap I don't even have the ATV plate for mine,Humvee's are fun to play with if the engine doesn't blow up,I am looking for GM Duramax for one now

Every state has different regulations. The govt. can issue a title or an SF-97 that you use to get a title at the state level. That is the not issue. Titlling is easy. The problem with many states is registration, being able to run on or offroad. Some states issue off road titles only, so do. It's all a big jumble.
Have fun doing a duramax swap. How many vehicles have to have the body lifted off to get to the motor for a swap?

windtrader · July 05, 2023, 11:43:22 AM

Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on July 03, 2023, 09:14:00 PM
If you drive your Humvee into LA Cliff, this is what they will do to it.

https://youtu.be/bh8j_N0OUSE

And if you make them mad, they will put you in the front seat first.

In fact, the unknown of what happens when LEO grabs you for an out of compliance humvee, at least in CA. One would hope to get a citation to get vehicle registered in 20 days and a fine. But what happens if they impound the vehicle? Man, that is a massive and costly issue to deal with. I am certain they are not just going to give it to you after paying fines and tow and storage costs. I'd suspect you'd need to have proof that vehicle upon release is on a truck heading out of state. Not worth the risk to me anyway.

luvrbus · July 05, 2023, 12:32:45 PM

Both the 6.2 and 6.5 Humvee engines are no emissions ,how in the world would you license one in CA,I can upgrade to current DOT stds and emissions std and get a title,it is not worth it installing seats with shoulder and lap belts with another 100 items besides,lol I like the steering wheel lock my self ( a chain and padlock )

Van · July 05, 2023, 02:31:02 PM

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/750355863401694/

windtrader · July 05, 2023, 02:45:12 PM

You can't register one in CA anymore, irrespective of any engine or FMVSS. Other states vary a lot. The issues are all on the emissions side. Very few, if any states, are requiring safety standards be met.

windtrader · July 05, 2023, 02:49:32 PM

Van,That is an old M998, no AC, no 6.5 turbo, no OEM X-doors, no hardtop, etc. etc. Could not make out what plate is on there, maybe a temp? Maybe a busnut trying to sell an old MC7 for 50k, LOL. going to end up the same way. widow will unload it or it'll get spiderwebs all over it