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plyonsMC9

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https://www.busconversionmagazine.com/forum/index.php?topic=11710.0

Hope this helps, Phil
Northern Arizona / 1983 - MC9, 1995 MCI DL3-45

Utahclaimjumper


Why would anyone post a thread that has been beat to death from 2009..???>>>Dan
Utclmjmpr  (rufcmpn)
EX 4106 (presently SOB)
Cedar City, Ut.
72 VW Baja towed

TomC

There is only one true way of finding out what inflation you tires should be. Weigh the bus by axle on a Cat scale at your local truck stop when the bus is fully loaded. Then obtain the tire inflation table for your exact tires and tire size. Inflate to what is suggested during winter. Run 5psi higher in hot weather. No other way is accurate. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

luvrbus

One has to pick a happy spot for himself on tire pressure axle weight is not always the best most converted buses are heavier on one wheel or the other, I have watched converters weighing each wheel and if they get the weight with in 500 to a 1000 lbs they call it good,Best to add air pressures to compensate for the heavier wheel weight I was told,Prevost converters add pressure to the manufacture's tire specs.My Country Coach uses 130 PSI on the 315/80/22.5 on the front tires and that is max rating and I don't see any difference in tire wear or wandering and the rear and tags are 105 psi only difference I see is a rough ride on the front axles with the IFS @ 130 PSI.I am pondering the idea if I have the clarence of using 365's on the steering like Prevost for less psi and a better ride   
     
Life is short drink the good wine first

TomC

315/80-22.5 are rated for 75mph, but only at 18,000lb. 20,000lb is 55mph. I would seriously consider going with bigger tires in front.
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

luvrbus

Quote from: TomC on November 12, 2022, 09:00:33 AM
315/80-22.5 are rated for 75mph, but only at 18,000lb. 20,000lb is 55mph. I would seriously consider going with bigger tires in front.

I am heavy my GCWR is 67,000 lbs that is only16,000 lbs less than a 18 wheel truck and trailer,my weight is around 50 to 51 thousand lbs.the ISX does a good job with pushing and pulling the weight to I can average 7.5 mpg every day @ 70 MPH,I do worry about blowing a tire on steers though 
Life is short drink the good wine first

buswarrior

The 365 on the front sure do like to wander around, following whatever imperfection is out there.

What is your steer axle weighing now?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

luvrbus

Quote from: buswarrior on November 12, 2022, 11:14:54 AM
The 365 on the front sure do like to wander around, following whatever imperfection is out there.

What is your steer axle weighing now?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

17,800 lbs
Life is short drink the good wine first

buswarrior

Quote from: luvrbus on November 12, 2022, 11:34:53 AM


17,800 lbs

That is obscene! It actually weighs that on the scales?

An entire GM 5307 weighed 23k empty...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior



Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

Van

Quote from: luvrbus on November 12, 2022, 11:34:53 AM


17,800 lbs

Wow! Thats the  Equivalent of 712,000 oreo cookies! Your coach needs a diet Clifford! ;D
B&B CoachWorks
Bus Shop Mafia.
Now in N. Cakalaki

luvrbus

Quote from: buswarrior on November 12, 2022, 01:37:51 PM
That is obscene! It actually weighs that on the scales?

An entire GM 5307 weighed 23k empty...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Yep it has a 18,000 lb rating .I have a 18ft slide on the passenger's side and 14ft slide on the drivers side and both have some heavy duty framing plus the 12.5 generator is ahead of the steers in a hush box it is heavy.
Life is short drink the good wine first

windtrader

Given the painful bill at the fuiel pump, I decided to up the pressure all around on my bus.
It weighs in around 32k, I think about 12 on the steers 20 in the back.  I just put 100 all around, well withing spec.
The ride is firmer, not harsh, nothing is really hard riding on air. As to improved MPG that will take a few tanks to figure out because much of my travels are up and down so hard to get a good average reading.
I am inclinded to go back to the more accurate lower settings if the increased comfort is "worth it"?

As to steering, no difference in wandering or feel, drives the same at both pressures.

interesting of note: couple weeks ago, i drove car from Sacramento, elevation 50 up to Tahoe, over 7500 at pass. got about 32mpg on that leg. On the trip back, there is a big sign warning about downlill grades for the next FORTY miles. Got about 45mpg on that leg. lol
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

dtcerrato

Higher tire pressure for the average drive, ie: smooth asphalt is hardly noticable but do the extreme as in the far NW corner where pot holes, frost heaves, & wash boarding is common - dropping to the proper load rated pressure is like night & day both for comfort & handling. Oh & good shocks make a big difference in the same condition differential.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

chessie4905

Good luck seeing ACTUAL mpg improvement. Driving 5 mph slower would yield better results for most except Clifford and others with lots of overdrive.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

RJ

Quote from: windtrader on November 13, 2022, 08:26:52 AM
Given the painful bill at the fuel pump, I decided to up the pressure all around on my bus.
It weighs in around 32k, I think about 12 on the steers 20 in the back.  I just put 100 all around, well within spec.
Don -

I'm going to speculate that you're not going to see any difference in your fuel mileage, or at the most, decimal points different.

As has been pointed out earlier, just take your bus to a truck scale in full, ready-to-roll condition, pay the $15 and get the weights on each axle, instead of guessing. Then set your tire pressures to the load/inflation table for your tire size and manufacturer. Just do it right and you, mama and the bus will all be happy campers.

FWIW & HTH. . .  ;)

RJ
1992 Prevost XL Vantaré Conversion M1001907 8V92T/HT-755 (DDEC/ATEC)
2003 VW Jetta TDI Sportwagon "Towed"
Cheney WA (when home)