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Hydrogen retro fit and semi retro fit diesel motors

Started by lvmci, October 14, 2022, 04:03:35 PM

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Jim Blackwood

So what are the relative percentages? For that particular transit company it's kinda close to 10%.

Jim
I saw it on the Internet. It MUST be true...

lvmci

Hydrogen fuel news:
July 22, 2023 0 By FRANKIE WALLACE
Fortescue Future Industries Acquires Phoenix Hydrogen Hub, Boosting Green Energy and Job Creation
In a significant stride towards the advancement of green energy, Fortescue Future Industries (FFI), a global leader in renewable energy and green products, has announced its acquisition of Nikola Corporation's Phoenix Hydrogen Hub (PHH) project. This move marks a major step in FFI's mission to decarbonize hard-to-abate sectors like transport and create hundreds of green industrial jobs in America.

Buckeye's Phoenix Hydrogen Hub Set to Accelerate Green Hydrogen Production
The PHH project, located in Buckeye, Arizona, is primed to be a linchpin in the production of green hydrogen, a clean energy source that holds immense potential for reducing carbon emissions. FFI's investment in the PHH will not only accelerate the production of green hydrogen but also pave the way for the creation of new green industrial jobs...


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Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

windtrader

The problem with low sample size is statistics are not representative. 1 in 10 is 10% but far less indicative than 100 in a 1000. Either way, thanks for posting Fred. I think I'd rather be in an e-bus rather than hydrogen if it decides to light up. Hopefully, more time to get out.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

Dave5Cs

"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

lvmci

MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

Jim Blackwood

Yeah but where are you going to put that tank in your Miata?

Jim
I saw it on the Internet. It MUST be true...

Dave5Cs

Trailer ? Ya the only negative would be figure out a tank the fits. Because that pickup is nice but you could not use the bed for much.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

dtcerrato

Quote from: Dave5Cs on July 30, 2023, 07:39:08 AM
Trailer ? Ya the only negative would be figure out a tank the fits. Because that pickup is nice but you could not use the bed for much.
A real close friend of mine sold a fire engine red Ford Lightning PU super charged ICE.  It had 40K on it and the bed looked brand new so he'd probably love to have that PU especially if it could out run the ICE in the 1/4 mile :^
Dan & Sandy
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windtrader

Awesome video showing it is scientifically possible. For the everyday DIY garage motorhead, I can not even begin to think how many zeros it would take on a check to build one yourself. This guy is totally networked into the auto industry so he could do it and that is wonderful; otherwise, it would not have happened.
It does show it can be done. Did you catch the comment that only CA has commercial hydrogen fueling stations, so even if you can build one in 49 states, you have no way to fuel it. And like he said the huge retailers run their hi-lo on hydrogen that is created by their own hydrogen generators.

It is exciting but my eye is still on doing a retro EV project someday. not new, well proven, and incredible results.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

lvmci

Latest Motorcoach World live video on you tube "stuck in Tucson", "...every charging station we've been to has problems..." plus the buses charging electronics broke, while charging his all electric VahHool from ABC bus...
MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

lvmci

Hydrogen fuel news
Hydrogen Vehicle Systems has a plan that could kick hydrogen HGV transition into high gearAugust 2, 2023 0 By ALICIA MOORE
The hydrogen company's strategy identifies five key points.
Hydrogen Vehicle Systems (HVS) has unveiled a five-point plan that outlines the necessary key steps to make widespread adoption of hydrogen-powered heavy goods vehicles (HGVs) a reality, as well as a call to action to propel the transition to an H2 (hydrogen fuel) economy.

HVS' roadmap aims to drive the industry forward and enable more rapid decarbonization.
The zero-emission commercial vehicles innovator, which is revolutionizing the goods delivery sector with its new hydrogen fuel cell HGV, wants greater clarity from governments and legal authorities on detailed timescales that are supported by policy incentives to encourage the early adoption of hydrogen HGVs.
More specifically, Hydrogen Vehicle Systems is calling for legislation changes, subsidies for green hydrogen production, job training support, and commitments to infrastructure development.
The hydrogen company hopes that the roadmap it has identified will accelerate the decarbonization of the goods delivery sector and help the United Kingdom to meet its net-zero targets.

The five key areas identified by the company include:
Incentives – Governments need to implement a package of support measures that not only provide operators with incentives (e.g. financial support, emissions-based vehicle purchasing, etc.), but also provide clarity on the actual costs involved to encourage confidence in new fleet investments.
Legislation and regulatory framework changes – Governments and local authorities need to provide clear commitments to support the industry's transition by setting ambitious carbon reduction targets and adopting goals specific to the sector.
Green hydrogen production – Hydrogen Vehicle Systems wants the UK Government to boost support for increased renewable energy production and channel these efforts into producing green hydrogen, which will enable infrastructure investors to scale-up and drive down hydrogen fuel costs, lowering the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) for hydrogen HGVs.Infrastructure – The scalable rollout of hydrogen refueling stations is a must. To start, HVS says that as few as seven strategically located hydrogen stations would be needed to serve the majority of HGV movements in the motorway distribution network. These stations could first be mobile and then later fixed to a location once demand grows.
STEM skilled workforce and training – To support the transition, Hydrogen Vehicle Systems believes that training and education programs are essential to establish a capable workforce at both the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) and tier 1 supplier levels. Investment in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) cultivates and promotes R&D initiatives as well as offers opportunities for academia, industry
"Change in this market is not happening quickly enough – which is why, today, we are unveiling this five-point plan, outlining a roadmap that will accelerate the transition to hydrogen HGV fleets," said Hydrogen Vehicle Systems CEO Jawad Khursheed.


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Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

freds

Dang there is yet another color hydrogen named "White"...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/12/prospectors-hit-the-gas-in-the-hunt-for-white-hydrogen?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

It would still have to be captured and transported. Though I would think it would be more useful to decarbonize steel production which would be a limited number of destinations. Rather then trying to use it as a motor fuel.



lvmci

Hydrogen fuel news
The Netherlands renewable hydrogen plan gets green light from the European Commission
August 8, 2023 0 By ALICIA MOORE
The Dutch have their sights set on green hydrogen development.
A €246 million Dutch plan to support renewable hydrogen production and the construction of a minimum 60 megawatt (MW) electrolysis capacity in the Netherlands, has been approved by the European Commission (EC).


The plan is in line with the EU Hydrogen Strategy and the European Green Deal.
The goal of the Netherlands renewable hydrogen plan is to contribute to the development of green hydrogen in line with goals that have already been set by the EU Hydrogen Strategy and the European Green Deal.

Additionally, the measure will contribute to the RePowerEu Plan goals to speed up the green energy transition and end dependence on Russian fossil fuels.
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lvmci

Hydrogen Fuel News
Israeli Innovators Unleash Green Hydrogen Production Using Factory Waste
August 15, 2023 1 By TAMI HOOD
The team of scientists say they were able to use this material to make H2 without toxic byproducts.
A research team from Sami Shamoon College of Engineering in Israel have developed a new green hydrogen production process using stainless steel powder.

The process uses H2 trapping and the researchers say solar energy could boost production capacity.
Green hydrogen is made in a process devoid of Carbon dioxide emissions," said Dr. Guy Ben Hamu, research team head. "We add a stainless steel powder to water then and through an electrochemical process produce hydrogen. We do not introduce any other energy to the water and the hydrogen is released from it spontaneously. In order to produce a large amount, solar energy can be added, and then more hydrogen can be produced in a short span of time.
MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
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freds

Quote from: lvmci on August 15, 2023, 12:24:49 PM
Hydrogen Fuel News
Israeli Innovators Unleash Green Hydrogen Production Using Factory Waste
August 15, 2023 1 By TAMI HOOD
Green hydrogen is made in a process devoid of Carbon dioxide emissions," said Dr. Guy Ben Hamu, research team head. "We add a stainless steel powder to water then and through an electrochemical process produce hydrogen. We do not introduce any other energy to the water and the hydrogen is released from it spontaneously. In order to produce a large amount, solar energy can be added, and then more hydrogen can be produced in a short span of time.

Again what is source and how is it transported for actually use? There's a big reason that SpaceX with methane rather then hydrogen in their new big @$# rocket...