Urea shortage now 2 stroke could be back
 

Urea shortage now 2 stroke could be back

Started by Dave5Cs, December 12, 2021, 08:16:05 AM

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Dave5Cs

Read an artical about how we rely on China for 85% of our Urea and how they are getting low on it and holding what they have for themselves for food supply trucks there. We only produce 35% of our own. So will the two stroke be coming back, LOL :^
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chessie4905

Yep. Just stand down at the end of your road and wait.lol
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Van

Wasn't there a Band named "Def Urea? Ahh Cow Piss!! ;D
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Dave5Cs

That was what I thought Van too but seems it is the Bi-Product of natural gas and Coal.... :^
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Van

Quote from: Dave5Cs on December 12, 2021, 08:58:38 AM
That was what I thought Van too but seems it is the Bi-Product of natural gas and Coal.... :^

Ha! I would have thought that there would be plenty of Natural Gas & Coal to go around this X-mas :P
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luvrbus

Truck stops have pumps with DEF and W/M has plenty in boxes,I never saw any DEF made in China 
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richard5933

Quote from: luvrbus on December 12, 2021, 09:17:44 AM
Truck stops have pumps with DEF and W/M has plenty in boxes,I never saw any DEF made in China

It's not the DEF itself they're talking about, it's the one of the primary ingredients which the US producers require for making the DEF.
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luvrbus

Diesel Exhaust Fluid aka DEF is made several different ways Cummins uses no Urea in theirs none in some other brands either,DEF is mostly water every independent trucker in America knows how to get around it so I wouldn't worry about it,it is fertilizer a pound will make a 100 gals for 10 bucks or you can run one on just water   
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Dave5Cs

Read an articul about how we rely on China for 85% of our Urea.

Had nothing to do with Def in this articul  other than it said soon it would be hard for trucking companies to get any.

"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

richard5933

Quote from: luvrbus on December 12, 2021, 09:55:22 AM
Diesel Exhaust Fluid aka DEF is made several different ways Cummins uses no Urea in theirs none in some other brands either,DEF is mostly water every independent trucker in America knows how to get around it so I wouldn't worry about it,it is fertilizer a pound will make a 100 gals for 10 bucks or you can run one on just water   

Here's a quote from the Cummins web site: Diesel Exhaust Fluid is formulated with 32.5 percent urea and 67.5 percent deionized water.

https://www.cummins.com/news/2016/01/04/6-answers-about-diesel-exhaust-fluid

What information are you basing your comments on?
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

Dave5Cs

"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

luvrbus

Quote from: richard5933 on December 12, 2021, 12:53:03 PM
Here's a quote from the Cummins web site: Diesel Exhaust Fluid is formulated with 32.5 percent urea and 67.5 percent deionized water.

https://www.cummins.com/news/2016/01/04/6-answers-about-diesel-exhaust-fluid

What information are you basing your comments on?

Richard look at the date 2016 of the article  I base mine because I have a Cummins and I buy it for a 2021 Dodge 1 ton with the Cummins engine,I will get you a photo of the box that says no Urea,my world does not revolve around google 
Life is short drink the good wine first

luvrbus

Quote from: Dave5Cs on December 12, 2021, 12:37:21 PM
Read an articul about how we rely on China for 85% of our Urea.

Had nothing to do with Def in this articul  other than it said soon it would be hard for trucking companies to get any.

Read the thread before you post?

I'll post when I feel like it you were talking about Urea used in the DEF or did I miss that part
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richard5933

Quote from: luvrbus on December 12, 2021, 01:11:21 PM


Richard look at the date 2016 of the article  I base mine because I have a Cummins and I buy it for a 2021 Dodge 1 ton with the Cummins engine,I will get you a photo of the box that says no Urea,my world does not revolve around google

I'd love to see what you're putting in that engine. Everything I'm seeing online about DEF, including the Fleetguard product, is 32.5% urea.

https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/LT36613.pdf
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

Dave5Cs

Clifford wasn't directed at you I was saying to all that all of a sudden it was changed to a thing on DEF. The article was about Urea a product of def and how the supply was getting low.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.