power booster

chessie4905 · October 26, 2021, 06:52:09 AM

saw on Alibaba a rear axle assembly with an electric motor Attached at right angles where the pinion yoke would normally be. Imagine if this could be adapted to tag axle and wonder how big a Gen set would be necessary for hill climbing or stop and go traffic. Probably wouldn't be savings or enough power to matter or would require enormous generator. Still food for thought.

dtcerrato · October 26, 2021, 07:32:32 AM

Now that's thinking outside the box! How about a remote control that could start the towed, put it in drive & accelerate! Nice supplemental power - why not? It's already got supplemental brakes!

lvmci · October 26, 2021, 10:17:47 AM

A bus hybrid...

chessie4905 · October 26, 2021, 11:44:37 AM

or have it regenate going down grades to charge batteries.

Nova Eona · October 26, 2021, 03:53:41 PM

This is on my wish-list someday. Once electric heavy trucks are ubiquitous and the electric drive axles start showing up in junkyards, I want to snag one and slap a generator head on the 6-71 (and/or replace w/ modern generator) for a nice diesel-electric hybrid setup. Check back in like fifteen years and I'll let you know how it's going.

chessie4905 · October 26, 2021, 06:01:19 PM

I'll probably be worm food by then

buswarrior · October 26, 2021, 06:20:34 PM

Quote from: Nova Eona on October 26, 2021, 03:53:41 PM
This is on my wish-list someday. Once electric heavy trucks are ubiquitous and the electric drive axles start showing up in junkyards, I want to snag one and slap a generator head on the 6-71 (and/or replace w/ modern generator) for a nice diesel-electric hybrid setup. Check back in like fifteen years and I'll let you know how it's going.

You don't have to wait, the first of the hybrid transit buses are off to the scrapper.

Electric motor attached to a traditional differential, engine and generator mounted sidewinder in Orion chassis, for one example.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Nova Eona · October 26, 2021, 06:36:01 PM

Yeah I suppose I could technically start making it happen today, but I don't have the time or resources to tackle that particular project yet. I'd rather wait until the integrated e-axles have gone through a generation or two, particularly given my chassis' unfriendliness to T-drive applications. That'll give battery tech time to advance a bit as well.

dtcerrato · October 26, 2021, 06:54:05 PM

Might be able to do something before Chessie is worm food then! ? Lol

peterbylt · October 27, 2021, 06:09:03 AM

Have you looked at the new Hummer EV, 1000 HP and 11,500 LB-FT Torque. That could probably push a bus to get it off the Road, or maybe even use the Bus as the Toad.

Would be nice as Dan said, a remote control box to apply that extra boost to make it over the Pass.

On the flip side, I would like to see them use the reactive braking system to allow it to charge the batteries while being towed, arrive at the camp site with completely charged batteries.

Might also work as backup house batteries.

Peter

dtcerrato · October 27, 2021, 06:39:19 AM

Quote from: peterbylt on October 27, 2021, 06:09:03 AM
Have you looked at the new Hummer EV, 1000 HP and 11,500 LB-FT Torque. That could probably push a bus to get it off the Road, or maybe even use the Bus as the Toad.

Would be nice as Dan said, a remote control box to apply that extra boost to make it over the Pass.

On the flip side, I would like to see them use the reactive braking system to allow it to charge the batteries while being towed, arrive at the camp site with completely charged batteries.

Might also work as backup house batteries.

Peter

W/O exaggeration I couldn't begin to tell you how many times in 42 years of same bus ownership more than 8 different toweds either helped goose the bus up an incline it shouldn't have been on or even relocate the bus down the highway to a better spot. The best true one that stands out over the years is when wifey got behind the wheel of our 77 Jeep CJ-5 towed with a modified AMC 304 V8 and after running out of fuel (bus) pushed the bus down TX E I-10 for 30 miles to an exit to refuel - including the TX highway patrol - that's a story for another day...

Utahclaimjumper · October 27, 2021, 06:42:02 AM

Being that today's alternators use 25 to 36 horsepower when producing power,, don't think that all this is free ..>>>Dan

freds · October 27, 2021, 08:33:39 PM

Quote from: peterbylt on October 27, 2021, 06:09:03 AM
Have you looked at the new Hummer EV, 1000 HP and 11,500 LB-FT Torque. That could probably push a bus to get it off the Road, or maybe even use the Bus as the Toad.

Would be nice as Dan said, a remote control box to apply that extra boost to make it over the Pass.

On the flip side, I would like to see them use the reactive braking system to allow it to charge the batteries while being towed, arrive at the camp site with completely charged batteries.

Might also work as backup house batteries.

Peter

That brings to mind the series "Ice Road Trucker" where they were moving modular building up north and had pusher trucks to help on the hills.

Would love to have a cybertruck as my toed and have it act as braking and up hill pushing!!!

freds · October 27, 2021, 08:36:27 PM

Quote from: Utahclaimjumper on October 27, 2021, 06:42:02 AM
Being that today's alternators use 25 to 36 horsepower when producing power,, don't think that all this is free ..>>>Dan

You know I do have to turn off my DC to DC charger that maintains the start batteries as it drains the house batteries when I am driving. (Currently bumping up the size of my house batteries).

Maybe I should start thinking of solar as a simple range exchanger?