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Tire Dressing

Started by luvrbus, October 20, 2021, 07:28:51 PM

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windtrader

303 is a proven product to cut UV. How effective on rubber tires is the question. Rubber is porous so it seems any material applied that provide UV protection needs to remain on the surface or in rubber right near the surface. If the product is designed for this material it seems it can do a better job both near term and over time.


The challenge is finding the products that are made ground up for rubber tires rather than some multi-national making some stuff up then putting different label designed by marketing to sell it into different markets and applications. I'd bet far more tire products on the market are the same used for boat covers and backyard plastic furniture, etc.


What needs to happen here is some real research into the chemical and materials that work best for rubber tires. I'm sure they are around but need to find the real products designed best for tires.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

luvrbus

Quote from: windtrader on October 21, 2021, 10:02:48 AM
303 is a proven product to cut UV. How effective on rubber tires is the question. Rubber is porous so it seems any material applied that provide UV protection needs to remain on the surface or in rubber right near the surface. If the product is designed for this material it seems it can do a better job both near term and over time.


The challenge is finding the products that are made ground up for rubber tires rather than some multi-national making some stuff up then putting different label designed by marketing to sell it into different markets and applications. I'd bet far more tire products on the market are the same used for boat covers and backyard plastic furniture, etc.


What needs to happen here is some real research into the chemical and materials that work best for rubber tires. I'm sure they are around but need to find the real products designed best for tires.

You don't want to use any tire dressing unless they make a cleaner to open the pores on the tires ,now 303 doesn't even make the top 5 tire dressing .My Toyo dealer told me the Dura is good stuff so I am going with it, for  over 10 bucks a tire it should be good
Life is short drink the good wine first

lvmci

303 is sun screen for tires, in Las Vegas that matters, lvmci...
MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

chessie4905

tire guy said no to 303 also. said soap and water and use tire covers out in the sun.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

richard5933

Quote from: lvmci on October 21, 2021, 02:44:19 PM
303 is sun screen for tires, in Las Vegas that matters, lvmci...

Are there any real-world tests which show that it actually helps reduce sun damage to tires?
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

luvrbus

Tire manufactures like Toyo I know for sure and probably others too apply a UV tire dressing at the plant before shipment.303 has been around for a long time and a good product, when I purchased John Deer rubber tired equipment a bottle of 303 and the cleaner always came with the tractor. Now I believe there are better products on the market than 303 and I am going to try one 
Life is short drink the good wine first

Tedsoldbus

Guess I am with Van and Richard. 303 on the tires and rubber fender skirts. I spray that on a rag and rub it on. No streaks so far. I make myself drive it once a month even just for an hour. Still put tire covers on until the shop is done. I tried Maguires hot rims on the Alcoa. Went back to mothers and lots of elbow grease. Much shinier and it rubbed the few  streaks out that Maguires left.
1980 shorty (35') Prevost
6V92  HT 740
Lake Nottely Ga
Bus name "debt"
Education is important, but having a Bus is importanter...

chessie4905

Dad always rubbed them down with Ruglide.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

Quote from: chessie4905 on October 21, 2021, 05:02:53 PM
Dad always rubbed them down with Ruglide.

haven't seen that product in years I used on my rubber floor board and tires on my Chevy pickup,back then tires were rubber and you open the doors and washed the floor board.Today it hard to understand the chemical compounds make up of tires   
Life is short drink the good wine first

lvmci

303 was developed for the space shuttle tiles, to protect from the sun rays in outer space...
MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

BusNit

Tires being composed of natural latex will decay no matter what we put on them. It's not just the sun although UV exposure speeds the decay process. I was watching a TV show where they were talking about the rubber tree farmers are mostly getting out of the biz since their land is worth more to developers than what the trees produce. Some kind of bug has already eradicated several tree farms in Asia. It was an interesting documentary and that there is no manmade replacement for the rubber used in tires. Prices will continue to skyrocket on rubber it seems. Brazil is out of the picture for the most part on rubber production.
--Simon

1993 Newell 44'

richard5933

Natural rubber is only a small component of a tire nowadays. Just looked and see that it's only about 20% of the total. Not insignificant, but certainly not the bulk of the tire.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

luvrbus

Quote from: richard5933 on October 21, 2021, 06:04:21 PM
Natural rubber is only a small component of a tire nowadays. Just looked and see that it's only about 20% of the total. Not insignificant, but certainly not the bulk of the tire.

They knew it was coming in the 80's they spent millions trying to figure out how to recycle tires lol best they came up with was shredded tires in play grounds and asphalt.Back in the late 50' the Atlas brand Butyl tires was the have to have tires for you car 50 + years later it still used in tires, very little rubber in tires now that is why you buy new tires every 5 or 6 years now/ This why fossil fuel will never go away about everything you use in daily life is tied to natural gas and oil 
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

Jim Blackwood

In 1973 I once painted the tires on my car with "Tire Black" simply because I was still learning about cars. Did a smoky burnout a few days later and ran into a guy on the other side of the base a little later that day who asked me if I knew that I had lit my tires on fire? WooHoo! If it hadn't been such an aggravation I'd probably painted them it all the time after that!

Jim
I saw it on the Internet. It MUST be true...