Remember when

[freds]

I remember my army days in the artillery. 8V71's in the howitzer's and 6V53's in the cargo carriers and command post track.

Nothing like the angry growl of the diesels in the morning LOL!

[CrabbyMilton]

The best description I have heard about two cycle DETROIT's. A swarm of bees in a SPAM can.

[luvrbus]

The best description I have heard about two cycle DETROIT's. A swarm of bees in a SPAM can.

Not the best engine ever made but the 2 strokes ruled the world for 40 + years ,Cummins,Mack,Cat,and International all took shots at the Detroit and never succeeded knocking Detroit off the throne ,took the EPA to bring it down .No one has ever made a engine that could be used in so many applications with so many parts interchangeable they really were a engineering marvel in their day     

[DoubleEagle]

Not the best engine ever made but the 2 strokes ruled the world for 40 + years ,Cummins,Mack,Cat,and International all took shots at the Detroit and never succeeded knocking Detroit off the throne ,took the EPA to bring it down .No one has ever made a engine that could be used in so many applications with so many parts interchangeable they really were a engineering marvel in their day   

This could be a great Epitaph for the 2 cycle Detroit when it finally truly dies, but so long as some of these engines are still singing, the end has not come just yet.

[Paso One]

No one has ever made a engine that could be used in so many applications with so many parts interchangeable they really were a engineering marvel in their day   

That is so true, also why there are still around.

[luvrbus]

That is so true, also why there are still around.

Each year they get less and less down from 3-1/2 million to around 350,000 now world wide,MTU will drop support before long for the 2 cycles,the military and NATO were MTU's largest customer that's gone so is the DOC training for 2 cycles I was told by Davenport   

[richard5933]

Still LOTS of 2-strokes in use in the marine world.

[luvrbus]

Still LOTS of 2-strokes in use in the marine world.

Not really along the coast Texas started 10 years ago giving grants to replace the 2 strokes in boats you may find them but not like it was in the past.I have contract with a cell carrier replacing all their 2 strokes along the coast ,it is sad you pull a good running 12v92 or 12v71 you drain the oil start the engine full throttle and let it run till it seizes and gives up and they haul it off for scrap. You are not allowed to even remove parts,I removed 4 sets of tall cast valve cover from a 12v71 and they made me throw those in the scrap,it was stupid LOL I ended up with those anyways the scrap co had a 453 on a crusher that needed a adjustment that took 10 minutes   

[lvmci]

Clifford, does a 12V92 heat up like a 8V92 or worse? Or does it run at a lower RPM for the same amount of power? tom...

[CrabbyMilton]

There are still a few locomotives that have a 2 stroke. More and more 4 stroke and they too have a sound of their own. Any engine that powers a locomotive commands respect on sound alone regardless of engine type.

[luvrbus]

Clifford, does a 12V92 heat up like a 8V92 or worse? Or does it run at a lower RPM for the same amount of power? tom...

On generators they run @1800 rpm under a load takes a monster cooling system the radiators are 22 cores some are 28 cores they 7-1/2 ft tall x 60 to 80 inches wide with a 58 to 72 dia fan to keep one at 195 F  churning out 600 to 750 KW with a 16v92,good thing is they are only running in storm conditions.You would not like the fuel bill @ 36 to 42 gals a hour lol they hold a lot of 40w oil too   

[chessie4905]

More than a few locomotives. Almost all EMD locomotives are 2 stroke. There are thousands out there yet.

[luvrbus]

More than a few locomotives. Almost all EMD locomotives are 2 stroke. There are thousands out there yet.

BNSF runs EMD 4 stroke engines I don't think they have any EMD 2 strokes running on the lines anylonger.It is a strange sight to see the EMD engines with a Caterpillar logo and yellow paint  now ,I was told BNSF has 9000 train engines and they have almost all been converted over to the 4 stroke EMD engines   

[chessie4905]

all I see on BNSF are GE's anymore. Warren Buffet also has GE stock. They used to have a lot of EMD.

[CrabbyMilton]

GE sold their locomotive division several years ago.  WABTEC is what's it's called now.