Eagle headlight number

David Anderson · January 31, 2019, 06:31:59 PM

I just noticed one of my headlights took a rock somewhere and is out. It is one of the low beams. I think those are hi/low. I have four 5.75" round. What are the replacement numbers for both bulbs? Probably will have to order it to get one before heading home in 2 weeks.

Thank you
David

Sunchaser Art · January 31, 2019, 06:34:58 PM

If I remember right, the industry number is either 4000 or 4001 (I think the 4000 is the hi/low combo). They're probably available at any parts store (or Amazon).

richard5933 · January 31, 2019, 06:51:38 PM

If they're 12v any chain parts store should have them. Probably best to replace in a pair, as the light will be different between the two otherwise. Might even be able to get them at a Walmart.

luvrbus · January 31, 2019, 07:28:17 PM

Any Walmart has those one has to love a Eagle with the 12 v system

Dave5Cs · February 01, 2019, 07:47:04 AM

Cool so you can buy an Eagle at Walmart these days, Didn't know!

luvrbus · February 01, 2019, 09:21:51 AM

Quote from: Dave5Cs on February 01, 2019, 07:47:04 AM
Cool so you can buy an Eagle at Walmart these days, Didn't know!

LOL wise @$#

chessie4905 · February 01, 2019, 09:56:58 AM

Might as well pick up one of these while you are in there in appropriate color for those of you who don't have a fuel gauge.😉

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Eagle-Mfg-Type-l-Safety-Cans-Diesel-5-gal-Yellow/19272414

David Anderson · February 02, 2019, 11:49:41 AM

The light numbers are 4000 for hi/low 37.5 /60 watt and 5001 for thigh beam, 60 watt. I couldn't find them anywhere in Albuquerque so I had to order online at replacementlightbulbs.com They were $5 each. It appears they are not made anymore.

richard5933 · February 02, 2019, 02:48:53 PM

There are more modern versions of these that will fit perfectly. Most of the sealed beams headlights made are now halogen. Same size, same connectors, and basically the same wattage. Only thing different is the numbers on the box. I went through this on my bus a while ago - drove me crazy trying to find NOS for what I thought was NLA headlights, till I realized that I could walk into any NAPA and get them.

windtrader · February 04, 2019, 02:34:48 PM

Rather than replace with OEM lamps, what are the considerations for upgrading to LED in the same form factor and voltage? My MCI8 headlights run twelve volts and standard appearing round lamps. They are significantly underperforming so need to replace them and LED seems like a good upgrade.

richard5933 · February 04, 2019, 03:07:19 PM

Quote from: windtrader on February 04, 2019, 02:34:48 PM
Rather than replace with OEM lamps, what are the considerations for upgrading to LED in the same form factor and voltage? My MCI8 headlights run twelve volts and standard appearing round lamps. They are significantly underperforming so need to replace them and LED seems like a good upgrade.

Have you checked the voltage coming to each of the current headlights? I just went through this with my GM 4108 last fall. Ended up being two things in our case: First, the sealed beam headlamps themselves needed to be replaced. The reflectors had yellowed and the light output was low. Second, the voltage coming to the headlamps was less than 12v. Should be almost 13.8 at highway speeds. I was able to get our voltage over 12v by cleaning all the terminals and tightening all connections. Made a drastic improvement when combined with the new bulbs. This spring I'm installing new voltage converters (ours run on 24-12v converters) to get the voltage where it needs to be.

If you do have proper voltage and switch, you'll need to find headlight assemblies that will fit in your current headlight buckets. Most LED assemblies are much deeper and have cooling fins on the rear. Contact https://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html if you want to find the best options for your bus. He's got knowledge and the inventory to get you set up.

Getting the proper LED headlights will cost a few pennies. Try and avoid getting those "blind all oncoming driver" headlights if possible. Some of the cheaper lights are not DOT approved, and the reason is that they have horrible vertical cutoff sending bright light all over the place. There is a guy with a 4106 that just went through this, installing LED headlights. He went with 7" LEDs in place of the 5-3/4" OEM lights that had been there. Good demonstration and testing of the various options in his video. Be sure to watch both part 1 & 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGOJHUtWRvE&t=4s

windtrader · February 06, 2019, 12:19:17 PM

Thanks for the tips and the video link. I like the videos this guy does, very complete and informative. Once the voltage is checked and fixed if needed, the improved lighting from LED is surely worth the upgrade to me.

Iceni John · February 09, 2019, 09:25:40 AM

Another option is to install Hella E-Code conversion lights, like I did a few years ago. The low-beams have far better beam control than any sealed-beam lights, with absolutely no vertical splash and with a slight uptick on the right side to better see pedestrians and signs. I now have a relay on each side for the high beams to assure they always get full voltage under load, and this also allowed me to put a high-beam flasher button on the end of my turn signal stalk - 320 watts definitely gets people's attention! All the headlights and the foglights are carefully aimed according to Daniel Stern's recommendations, and it's easy to double-check the low beams' aim by crouching down in front of the bus with your eyes at a typical car driver's height. Well worth it.

John