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[Lifes2short4nofun]

That is a entertainer bus with 6 bunks and has a rebuilt (salvage) title I made a offer, if it was a RV I probably would have bought it but I wasn't going to pay the $100,000 for it he was asking.The generators where my biggest concern they will need to be pulled and gone through.? what is he asking now just a rough ball park figure.Fwiw that is a nice bus 500 hp series 60, Allison 4060 with 250,000 miles if you can get a buy I say go for it and spend a little money checking every thing again     

I had found where he bought it at the salvage auction and he didnt pay much for it.  I was hoping to get a good deal on.  I saw a few on busforsale.com asking $85k so I was figuring it was worth around $40K$50k.   

[skihor]

I was told recently that once an rv, trailer, camper, tent trailer, 5th wheel etc... was totaled it can never be insured beyond liability. I just went through that scenario with my MC5A. It was totaled from hail damage.
As a result I will be selling it for 5K. Shame, I had over $50K in it

[Brassman]

Do tell us about the Colorado hail storm. What was the estimated size of the hail stones? Did they break solar panels?
Curious bus owners want to know.

[Oonrahnjay]

... I saw a few on busforsale.com asking $85k

     Ahem ... how do we say without getting into legal hot water ...   There are *some* websites that are not legitimate.  They cruise them InnerWebs and take photos without the owner's permission or knowledge and post them "For Sale" from their website.  They're just hoping that someone will click on their website and attempt to buy the bus that they don't have.  If that happens, they'll contact the owner and ask if he/she'll sell at a ridiculously high price -- if the owner goes for it, they'll offer the bus at a big markup for them; if not, they'll try to steer the unwary buyer toward other buses (which they may or may not have a legal right to offer for sell). The inflated prices on the website is often a "If they'll contact me for that POS offered at $69K, they're a real sucker" price -- that lets them know that the possible buyer doesn't know much and has done any homework.
     Now, I'm not saying that busforsale.com is one of these scam sites but before I put any credence or spent any money based upon things on their website, I'd investigate all the bus sales websites that I could to try to sort out the good from the bad.  A good first step is to check out their posted address on Google Earth -- if it's a 7-11 in the middle of a couple of trailer parks, it's probably not a legit site. 
     Buyer (or shopper) beware!   

[Jim Blackwood]

I wasn't real impressed with that site, it seemed like I never could get a reply from any of their sellers.

Jim

[Oonrahnjay]

I wasn't real impressed with that site, it seemed like I never could get a reply from any of their sellers.   Jim 

      I looked up the physical address for one of those sites (not saying which one).  The building shown on Google Earth was an ordinary suburban business building that was shown as being the location for a Social Security branch office at one door, a Physical Therapy unit at another, a dentist's office at another, and "Transportation Associates, LLC" at another.  There appeared to be a 14-seater shuttle bus like you might see at a large airport hotel parked on the edge of the parking lot near "Transportation Assocates".  I'm pretty sure that that location was not a place that had buses in stock to sell.
      That company's website instructed buyers to get in touch with the website's company - not individual sellers.  I have seen one that lists phone numbers for the sellers but those phone numbers all have the same area code but the buses are shown as being all across the country.  Something fishy there.

[richard5933]

I saw a Flxible for sale last year on a similar site. The site was what I'd call a listing 'accumulator'. They didn't have any actual stock or own any of the buses, they just listed them and handled the negotiations, sale, etc. I looked at the bus and talked to the owner, but when I was told that the negotiations were going to go through a third party I ran away.

Apparently there are a lot of this type of listing site out there for both buses and RVs. In my opinion, nothing good can come from them.

[pd4501-771]

 I have two friends that found their Scencruisers for sale on that website without their knowledge or consent. They had no idea until I brought it to their attention. Needless to say, some strongly worded phone calls by owners corrected that situation. shenanigans continue.

[Oonrahnjay]

I have two friends that found their Scencruisers for sale on that website without their knowledge or consent. ... 

      A similar thing with some double-decker buses from England ...

[skihor]

Do tell us about the Colorado hail storm. What was the estimated size of the hail stones? Did they break solar panels?
Curious bus owners want to know.

Hail was quarter size. The Reason it was totaled was... If a "panel" had 1 dent in it then the panel had to be removed and repaired and/or replaced. Or the interior walls had to be removed to effect repairs. There wasn't anywhere near the damage to the bus as there was to our cars. A testament to the quality of older/thicker metal. Solar panels were a thin flexible type which sustained dents but they still work

[Brassman]

Thanks skihor for the report, and sorry for your loss. I wonder how glass topped solar panels would of held up?

[Fred Mc]

"I was told recently that once an rv, trailer, camper, tent trailer, 5th wheel etc... was totaled it can never be insured beyond liability. I just went through that scenario with my MC5A. It was totaled from hail damage.
As a result I will be selling it for 5K. Shame, I had over $50K in it"
Im intersted in your reason for selling it. Is it not repairable. i.e. new skin on the roof.

Regards

Fred

[skihor]

"I was told recently that once an rv, trailer, camper, tent trailer, 5th wheel etc... was totaled it can never be insured beyond liability. I just went through that scenario with my MC5A. It was totaled from hail damage.
As a result I will be selling it for 5K. Shame, I had over $50K in it"
Im intersted in your reason for selling it. Is it not repairable. i.e. new skin on the roof.

You really have to look close for the hail damage, but, no matter how small a hail dent is, it's still damage, according to Insurance.
Anyway after 14 years living full time in our bus, we recently bought a '98 40' Safari Serengeti coach with a 16' slide. Nice as far as motorhomes go. Amazingly good condition inside and out. We will miss the bus, but we are really loving the space of the Safari. Huge shower, taller ceiling, walk around queen, leveling jacks, central air, hydronic heat, dual pane windows, dual door Norcold Refer, ice maker, mostly tile floors, Cat engine, 6 speed Allison. Servicable nearly everywhere. All for $31K
'

[sledhead]

sounds like a nice r/v

is it like this one ?

https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/1999-Safari-Serengeti-4006-5003308451

dave

[skihor]

sounds like a nice r/v

is it like this one ?

https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/1999-Safari-Serengeti-4006-5003308451

dave

very similar. Some subtle differences but not much different. Supposedly one of the better coaches back in '98