Anti-freeze out of Air Box Drain Can - Page 3
 

Anti-freeze out of Air Box Drain Can

Started by GnarlyBus, June 16, 2018, 07:56:27 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

GnarlyBus

That's a good tip on keeping notes. I feel like I've watched all the YouTube videos on two stroke diesels 4-5 each at this point. :) I wish there were more!

I'm wondering what kind of lift I can use to get the head off and on the block? Harbor freight sells some but I'm not sure if they'll cut it. Anybody have any reccomendations?
1984 MC-9 w/ 6v92TA & Allison 740
Oregon Summers & Arizona Winters
Full-Time since 2015

luvrbus

The H/F will work the head weighs less than 100lbs,rent one from Auto Zone is another option
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

Get someone competent to help lift them off. Two of us could lift off a 6-71 head.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

GnarlyBus

Are you saying two people could lift the head off without a lift? That would be nice. I was thinking they were like 250 lbs or something.

I read about putting them back on and on top of using the guide shims, it seemed like it was very important to go slow to not jostle the little o-rings and shims.
Quote from: chessie4905 on June 18, 2018, 05:37:17 PMGet someone competent to help lift them off. Two of us could lift off a 6-71 head.
1984 MC-9 w/ 6v92TA & Allison 740
Oregon Summers & Arizona Winters
Full-Time since 2015

luvrbus

I weighed a 6v92 head today for shipping they weigh 121 lbs ea
Life is short drink the good wine first

GnarlyBus

Thanks luvrbus! That's good to know. I'm thinking of picking up a Kent-Moore J-22062-A Cylinder Head Lifting Fixture (couple of them available used online). That and a lift would probably make it easier and prevent damaging anything.
1984 MC-9 w/ 6v92TA & Allison 740
Oregon Summers & Arizona Winters
Full-Time since 2015

eagle19952

Quote from: GnarlyBus on June 18, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Thanks luvrbus! That's good to know. I'm thinking of picking up a Kent-Moore J-22062-A Cylinder Head Lifting Fixture (couple of them available used online). That and a lift would probably make it easier and prevent damaging anything.

use paper matches with the red torn off to position/wedge the perimeter gasket..we used loaf pans to organize bolts...
takes 4  good sized...not banana bread sized :)
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

Van

Quote from: luvrbus on June 18, 2018, 08:27:57 PM
I weighed a 6v92 head today for shipping they weigh 121 lbs ea

Oh the memories. OUCHH!  :o
B&B CoachWorks
Bus Shop Mafia.
Now in N. Cakalaki

luvrbus

Life is short drink the good wine first

Scott & Heather

Gnarly,

Not sure what your actual name is, but you seem to have a positive "can do" attitude and approach to this that is refreshing. And yet you don't sound overly zealous or naive. I can't imagine having to tear down my engine to the level you're discussing but you seem to be absolutely up to the task. I'd spend plenty of time listening to the guys on here offering you help, and ignore the ones that may just be negative. If you can get comfortable doing this you will be able to be a huge help to some of us later on down the line when we have issues. That being said, I have a genuine Detroit diesel 6v92 in frame kit for sale if you need one. I don't think it has absolutely everything you'll need but it does have 6 cylinders, liners, rings and even a cam I think?

Scott


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
Click link for 900 photos of our 1st bus conversion:
https://goo.gl/photos/GVtNRniG2RBXPuXW9

luvrbus

He dosen't need a cam only the gasket kit for your kits Scott 200 bucks and he will have gaskets left over
Life is short drink the good wine first

GnarlyBus

Quote from: Scott & Heather on June 19, 2018, 02:33:34 PM
Gnarly,

Not sure what your actual name is, but you seem to have a positive "can do" attitude and approach to this that is refreshing. And yet you don't sound overly zealous or naive. I can't imagine having to tear down my engine to the level you're discussing but you seem to be absolutely up to the task. I'd spend plenty of time listening to the guys on here offering you help, and ignore the ones that may just be negative.

I appreciate your words! I've gone through a few waves of being totally overwhelmed with the idea of taking the engine apart. When I called 6 places yesterday and asked if they work on these engines, none of them did (including Southern Oregon Diesel btw which I've seen mentioned on here). Then I got a hold of a Freight liner up in Washington that said 7-8k in labor alone (to replace the liner seals), not including parts that they weren't sure they could source.

When I told the guy I was considering doing it myself, he said "oh no, you cannot do this yourself!". When I asked why he said there were all these special tools that were needed. His reaction freaked me out a bit.

I've got a list of tools started (guide shims, liner puller, cylinder clamps, head lift attachment, etc).

The thing is for me, it's either fix it myself pretty much by myself or park it and be done. This is my home. Were in our early 30s and live on the road full time in Oregon and Arizona. I wish I had a shop to do it in. I wish I had someone to show me how to do it. I wish there were videos online teaching me the process, but I'm glad everyone here keeps responding to my posts. I'll take lots of pics and videos when I start this project in the next few weeks.

Still considering what level of rebuild I want to do. I'm prepared to get the parts I need once i can inspect the condition of the pistons and liners.

How do I know now if it needs a rebuild? Compression test? It seems to run well but I don't have much to compare it to.
1984 MC-9 w/ 6v92TA & Allison 740
Oregon Summers & Arizona Winters
Full-Time since 2015

eagle19952

Quote from: GnarlyBus on June 19, 2018, 09:08:53 PM


How do I know now if it needs a rebuild? Compression test? It seems to run well but I don't have much to compare it to.

well, were i you,
before you get to deep, pull the heads and have them inspected for cracks and warp etc. look at the valve seats.
if the head/heads are toast, look for a gooder engine... ?
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

Scott & Heather

Cliff, what do I do with my cam? I have no idea why I even have it. It's still sealed in its cardboard tube. Came with my coach. I do wonder if an engine swap would come out easier and cheaper in the long run. You have access to some cheap donor buses/engines that california is trying to dump because of new EPA requirements basically outlawing two strokes...that's an idea.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
Click link for 900 photos of our 1st bus conversion:
https://goo.gl/photos/GVtNRniG2RBXPuXW9

luvrbus

Quote from: Scott & Heather on June 20, 2018, 04:12:17 AM
Cliff, what do I do with my cam? I have no idea why I even have it. It's still sealed in its cardboard tube. Came with my coach. I do wonder if an engine swap would come out easier and cheaper in the long run. You have access to some cheap donor buses/engines that california is trying to dump because of new EPA requirements basically outlawing two strokes...that's an idea.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Get me the number from the cam,it is probably a spare cam for alternator drive side since they do break and they are getting hard to find for a 8v92  
Life is short drink the good wine first