Tire pressure check
 

Tire pressure check

Started by richard5933, May 29, 2018, 03:30:47 PM

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richard5933

We are running Firestone FS400 (315/80R22.5) on our 4108. They came on the bus and since they're in great shape we are running them for now. I know that they are more tire than we need.

Weighed the coach this weekend with full tanks all around and a typical load of stuff. Only thing missing was the two of use in our seats, and together we done make 350 pounds.

Steer axle: 11120 (approx. 5560 each front wheel)
Drive axle: 18460 (approx. 4615 each rear wheel)
TOTAL: 29580

Chart from Firestone shows the following:

Dual: 5575/80psi     5840/85psi     6070/90psi     6395/95psi
Sing: 6175/80psi     6415/85psi     6670/90psi     6940/95psi

I have been running 95psi all around, but it appears my math was off. Thinking of dropping to 90psi in front and 85psi in rear to bring things closer to the chart but still allow for a good safety buffer above the minimum. My thought is that this will give a softer ride.

Any thoughts? Is the difference going to be noticeable enough to be worth the effort?
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

kyle4501

Changing the air pressure from 90 to 105 didn't make any difference  in ride. However, changing the shocks out to what was supposed to be there made a very noticeable improvement !

I like having my tires at the max sidewall pressure. That way, when there is a leak, I'll have more time to catch it before it drops low enough to cause damage.

I also use CrossFires on the duals to ensure both tires are carrying the load equally.

Added on edit -
BTW, I've experienced tire failures while driving - My choice is to do as much as I can to prevent that ever happening again.
If ride quality is so bad that you need to lower the tire pressure to minimum levels, you might want to consider a good tire pressure monitoring system. . . .
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TomC

Heck I would drop to 80psi all around. You're still above at the psi.
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

eagle19952

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

but, 92 psi is not enough...it has been said   ;D
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

luvrbus

LOL if ride is what you after buy a Eagle  :P
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

Too many issues with rust falling off and causing leaks in rear tires from running over it.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

eagle19952

Quote from: chessie4905 on May 29, 2018, 04:55:22 PM
Too many issues with rust falling off and causing leaks in rear tires from running over it.

so, be happy in a Bouncy Bellowed Betty :)
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

chessie4905

Bouncy? Have you ever ridden or driven a GMC? The older models would rock side to side some.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

eagle19952

Quote from: chessie4905 on May 29, 2018, 05:36:33 PM
Bouncy? Have you ever ridden or driven a GMC? The older models would rock side to side some.

did you mean roll u out of bed ?
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

chessie4905

I couldn't reach steering wheel and pedals from the bed, so I wouldn't know.  My 4905 doesn't rock and neither did out 4104. Both had rear sway bars. Neither rusted, or broke belts or had drop boxes or had tags.☺
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

All buses rust even GM's
Life is short drink the good wine first

dtcerrato

We ran close to max rated pressure in our tires, when we got to our destination over 5000 miles away, we reduced the pressure to what the tire chart showed for the actual load (similar to Richards #s) the difference in comfort was quite impressive - wished we knew better from the beginning.
Now we're in the market to replace the shocks - these observations weren't focused on until running nasty far north roads (frost heaves, loose gravel, pot holes, etc.)
Our 1953 GM bus has no rust :-)...
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

luvrbus

LOL oh yea it will have rust on the roof brows just dig around
Life is short drink the good wine first

opus

Its more about tire wear than comfort.  Full pressure and no weight leads to poor wearing tires, plus a hard ride, let alone road "sticking" power.  You need to ride on the full foot print of the tread, not just the high centers of your tires.  Why do you think they have charts with the proper pressures?
1995 BB All-American - A Transformation.

chessie4905

Last I checked, aluminum roof brows don't have a tendency to rust much. At least  in a GM, most rust can be seen, not hidden in the walls. I would not buy an MCI or Eagle unless it was a later model with stainless wall ribs. Well, to be honest, the only one I would buy would be a later Prevost.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central