Need shop recommendation

thomasinnv · March 21, 2018, 03:01:02 PM

Went to a shop in kingman and they gave me an estimate for over 5200 to r&r a front plate to fix an oil leak on a series 60. Seems way steep to me. Not sure if its a job i want to tackle myself as i dont have a torque wrench big enough for the crank pulley and i know all the gear train has to come off as well. Any suggestions for a good yet reasonable mechanic shop in the las vegas (NV) area? I have used Chino in the past but he is strictly mobile and im about 100 miles from vegas.

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Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM · March 21, 2018, 03:08:01 PM

Call Gary Bennett at B&B coachworks 702 873 4415. He does not do big engine jobs anymore but had a shop in Vegas for 30 years and knows a good mechanic in that town, but I forgot who it is now.

luvrbus · March 21, 2018, 03:34:52 PM

Maybe a little high but not out of sight,call Andy at A&A in Mohave Valley or Gilbert at G&G ? in Las Vegas. If I was home I would help you but I have 4 -8v92's looking at me in Texas lol only 3 to go

thomasinnv · March 21, 2018, 05:02:58 PM

Andy is going to come by tomorrow and look at it. He is hesitant to believe that the plate is leaking and after a closer look I am inclined to agree with him. Looks like there is a good chance that the oil is coming from the water pump gasket, air compressor gasket, and the pan gasket. We will see if he concurs tomorrow.

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thomasinnv · March 21, 2018, 05:05:49 PM

Chino used to work for B&B. At least my memory is trying to tell me that from the last time I visited with Gary and Van the man.

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luvrbus · March 21, 2018, 06:23:41 PM

I hope it is a easy fix the plate leaking is $$$$ oil leak to fix

TomC · March 22, 2018, 08:31:42 AM

Series 60 experts are going to be WW Williams and Las Vegas Freightliner. Good Luck, TomC

lvmci · March 22, 2018, 11:52:02 AM

I use G & R at 4455 Cameron St (702) 575-5939, behind Orleans hotel on tropicana, family owned, Gilbert does good work and reasonable, just replaced 38' accelerator cable for me, but they are getting busy as the word gets around, say Mr. Tom sent you, lvmci...

thomasinnv · March 30, 2018, 10:46:57 AM

Well andy did come by and we determined the best course of action was to go ahead and do the pan gasket which was leaking, and the water pump oring and see what the rest looked like while the pump was out of the way. Andy was too busy to squeeze me in before I had to leave town this weekend so i went ahead and did it myself. Seem to have taken care of the oil leaks but now another much greater issue.

While Andy was looking it over he mentioned that it looked like the head was moving around. Sure enough when i fired it up this morning to get ready to hit the road, it looked wet right where Andy said he thought it was moving around. I checked and it is coolant, not just water left over from a washing and cleaning. On fast idle i can see little tiny streams of coolant shooting out between the head and the gasket on number 1. No coolant in the oil so thats good i guess, but still looking at a major job. Shucks anyway.

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luvrbus · March 30, 2018, 12:53:46 PM

DD had a upgrade on the head bolts for the 11.1 series 60 could be the PO wasn't concerned enough to have it done,hoping you don't lose a stud in the middle of no where NV

good luck

thomasinnv · March 30, 2018, 01:25:48 PM

I don't think this is something that just started, i think it's been seeping for a while. I noticed moisture in the same area in the past but dismissed it as possible moisture left over from cleaning in the area. Wondering if I should risk driving it the 50 miles to the shop or if i should err on the side of caution and just call for a tow. If it decided to let loose on the way there i would then be looking at a full rebuild instead of just a head job. Clifford why'd you have to run off to texas? Can you head home now please? Lol.

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luvrbus · March 30, 2018, 01:33:28 PM

LOL wish I was at home,Andy probably told you the head moving will cause a counter bore to sink on the series 60 not fun then

thomasinnv · March 30, 2018, 01:50:02 PM

Quote from: luvrbus on March 30, 2018, 01:33:28 PM
LOL wish I was at home,Andy probably told you the head moving will cause a counter bore to sink on the series 60 not fun then

What does that mean? Liner sink into the block?

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eagle19952 · March 30, 2018, 07:01:20 PM

Quote from: thomasinnv on March 30, 2018, 01:50:02 PM
What does that mean? Liner sink into the block?

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the movement of everything hammers the liner...head hits it down, piston moves it up...back and forth like a jack hammer...

luvrbus · March 30, 2018, 07:27:45 PM

Quote from: eagle19952 on March 30, 2018, 07:01:20 PM
the movement of everything hammers the liner...head hits it down, piston moves it up...back and forth like a jack hammer...

That's a good explanation Donald then you machine the counter bore and install a bushing to save the block pretty common on 11.1 and 12.7 Detroit's with high mileage