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Towing a vehicle

Started by Billysurf, April 05, 2017, 06:16:22 AM

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TomC

The big advantage to towing your car on a full car trailer is you can back it up. You can't back but a few feet when towing a car 4 down-or you have to disconnect to get the maneuver done.
This is why I'm carrying my car inside my truck. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Dave5Cs

Everyone on here used to say that and I looked it up and sorry you are right, Trailers over 1500lbs only need an extra braking system. The only thing required is Safety cables and a breakaway system on trailers and towed's, lights on the rear.
I stand corrected...Wish I would have known that when I did mine, LOL
Dave
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Astro

In regards to towing using air brake equipped vehicle, it appears what rules CA have are buried in 26508.
Ken
Arlington, WA
1971 MC-5B, U7017, S9226 (On the road)
1945 Flxible Clipper (In conversion)
1945 Flxible Clipper town buggy

luvrbus

Quote from: Astro on April 06, 2017, 08:15:28 AM
In regards to towing using air brake equipped vehicle, it appears what rules CA have are buried in 26508.

I think that for a all air system,  there is no mention of supplemental braking on a towed vehicle behind a RV and no mention of it in CA's DL648 
Life is short drink the good wine first

Billysurf

Quote from: Dave5Cs on April 06, 2017, 08:13:37 AM
Everyone on here used to say that and I looked it up and sorry you are right, Trailers over 1500lbs only need an extra braking system. The only thing required is Safety cables and a breakaway system on trailers and towed's, lights on the rear.
I stand corrected...Wish I would have know that when I did mine, LOL
Dave

So, for a 4 wheel on the ground vehicle connected to a tow bar that's 5000 (ish) pounds, you do not need a braking system?
1988 MCI 102A2 Richmond,VA http://martinsgonemad.com

luvrbus

Quote from: Billysurf on April 06, 2017, 02:55:36 PM
So, for a 4 wheel on the ground vehicle connected to a tow bar that's 5000 (ish) pounds, you do not need a braking system?

They are probably a good safety feature but how good one works is anyone's guess,most vehicles of today have anti lock brakes and I wonder how that would affect the system.
If the manufactures would publish some real data it would help but all you get is BS "it improves stopping and saves your brakes"no graphs or nothing in stopping distance with one or without.
The way I see it on most brands like M/G,Air Force,Brake Buddy and other the front wheels are the only thing braking on the towed vehicle and a 1000 to 1500 bucks is a lot to pay for a system with no data to back it up JMO others here will have different ideas. If the brakes are good on the bus is what matters the most, that vehicle you are towing is going to have little affect on stopping the 30 to 50,000 lb bus       
Life is short drink the good wine first

Dave5Cs

But on my Jeep I did not attach wiring to Jeep from bus. I ran a 4 wire plug at Bus and Jeep with a 4 rely converter I made. At the rear I added an extra bulb in the tail light housing that is my runners and Signal lights. I have the surge brake that is cabled to my brake peddle that activates my regular brake lights. So I did need the braking system. I did not want to wire the bus to the Jeep. Older Jeeps already have enough electrical problems without adding any more. Like when all my dash lights go out you have to hit the dash with your fist and then all is good. Lets not even mention Jeep radios. They play when they are darn good and ready and not before.  ;D
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: Dave5Cs on April 06, 2017, 05:02:47 PM... Older Jeeps already have enough electrical problems without adding any more. Like when all my dash lights go out you have to hit the dash with your fist and then all is good. Lets not even mention Jeep radios. They play when they are darn good and ready and not before.  ;D

      Dave.  Man.  There are a few people on here talking about using British vehicles as toads.  You're gonna get NO sympathy from me on piddling little things like this!!  :0  :)  :0  ")
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

DoubleEagle

Quote from: Oonrahnjay on April 06, 2017, 06:05:39 PM
      Dave.  Man.  There are a few people on here talking about using British vehicles as toads.  You're gonna get NO sympathy from me on piddling little things like this!!  :0  :)  :0  ")


Seems to me that the perfect toad behind a DoubleDecker would be a Series Land Rover!  ;) Then you could be DoubleBrit.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Dave5Cs

Bruce you are so right!!!... ;D
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: DoubleEagle on April 06, 2017, 06:22:31 PMSeems to me that the perfect toad behind a DoubleDecker would be a Series Land Rover!  ;) Then you could be DoubleBrit. 

    Or Triple - I already have a Norton Commando production racer.  On the other hand, I could pour a quart of 15W40 2-stroke engine oil on my head and set my hair on fire -- that would probably hurt less.
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

luvrbus

I owned a 2000 Range Rover I bought new never again ,I kept that toy for almost a year and it had to go
Life is short drink the good wine first

sixtyseven

Quote from: Billysurf on April 06, 2017, 02:55:36 PM
So, for a 4 wheel on the ground vehicle connected to a tow bar that's 5000 (ish) pounds, you do not need a braking system?

In my opinion, in an emergency stop, any extra braking you can get is a good thing !  :o
Joe 
Oregon
1985  Prevost  8V92TA   HT740

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: luvrbus on April 06, 2017, 08:11:18 PMI owned a 2000 Range Rover I bought new never again ,I kept that toy for almost a year and it had to go

     If I had a $ for every time I heard the words "never again" during my years with Land Rover, I'd have enough money to buy a Prevost.
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

luvrbus

Quote from: Oonrahnjay on April 07, 2017, 05:46:21 AM
     If I had a $ for every time I heard the words "never again" during my years with Land Rover, I'd have enough money to buy a Prevost.

Towing it should be ok,lol driving one the 10 to 12 mpg really sucked.My wife has a 1977 Spitfire she has owned since 1980(41,000 miles) that thing leaks oil from the head lights I think   
Life is short drink the good wine first