Some pondering: How many bus conversions exist?

Ed Hackenbruch · February 25, 2017, 07:49:09 AM

Dave, my 68 5A only has a 4 number vin.

Dave5Cs · February 25, 2017, 08:50:11 AM

OK Ed it is 5 numbers and one letter.

Dave if you have a California Drivers License it is a class "C" so you do have one

Not a CDL

daveola · February 25, 2017, 10:09:59 AM

Quote from: Dave5Cs on February 25, 2017, 08:50:11 AM
Dave if you have a California Drivers License it is a class "C" so you do have one

Not a CDL

Oh right - misread that, sorry. Edited my post.

Scott & Heather · February 25, 2017, 04:59:46 PM

That's so frustrating. Fight this ever step of the way.....I'm all for supporting the BLUE but some of them need a good spanking.

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Zephod · February 26, 2017, 01:51:34 AM

Quote from: Scott & Heather on February 25, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
That's so frustrating. Fight this ever step of the way.....I'm all for supporting the BLUE but some of them need a good spanking.

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Yup. Some are lazy too. I was driving a work bus at 50 on the interstate (bit naughty as I'm supposed to do 45). Another school bus was doing 55+ and the copper behind ignored both of us and passed. I know he knows how fast we were going because their in car radar is always on.

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B_K · February 27, 2017, 07:08:36 AM

Quote from: Zephod on February 26, 2017, 01:51:34 AM
Yup. Some are lazy too. I was driving a work bus at 50 on the interstate (bit naughty as I'm supposed to do 45). Another school bus was doing 55+ and the copper behind ignored both of us and passed. I know he knows how fast we were going because their in car radar is always on.

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If your on the interstate you shouldn't be going 45 mph! The cop had more sense than whoever says school buses should do over 45 mph on an interstate!
At that speed you are more of a danger to other drivers, the kids on the bus and yourself than a bus going 65 mph because you are just asking for some idiot who is either playing with their phone or some other distraction or impaired to rear end you will doing the 75-80 mph most people drive on interstates these days!

BK

Zephod · February 27, 2017, 02:45:53 PM

I do think the 45mph restriction is strange but it's a federal regulation. Most schoolbusses are governed to 55. I've had 70 out of mine, downhill but it's governed to 55.

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daveola · December 12, 2018, 05:53:02 PM

I just realized that I had never updated this.

I won the appeal, easily enough. I have been down this road before.

Small court judges are often fairly small minded, and appeals are needed for an actual ruling of law, especially when you are being harassed by the people who are supposed to be enforcing the law, instead of breaking it.

Ah well.

But the question remains! How many bus conversions are there!?

I guess we'll never know.

Geoff · December 12, 2018, 06:06:10 PM

Your belief that Justice is served by appealing is the opposite of what I have experienced in traffic court. I have spent many times the original fine to appeal an injust decision from the lower court-- paying for a transcript plus whatever else they tack on only to receive a form letter saying "The decision of the lower court-- is upheld". Courts are the cockedest hierarchy in our system of government and they need to be overhauled and watched closely.

jraynor · December 13, 2018, 03:55:53 AM

You can also add conversion manufacturers to the list of converted buses as well. even thought I don't necessarily like to because the buyers didn't get an old bus used as a bus and convert it, instead they usually purchase the rolling chassis from Prevost and build it custom from there. So they are essentially the same exact chassis being used for buses, just never made it to the "bus" phase of its life and went straight to RV instead. So you could possibly bring some literature on their build process as additional proof that yes this is the same size as a bus and was never commercial so they do exist.

daveola · December 13, 2018, 02:22:16 PM

Again - let me make this clear.

I do not need proof that there are buses out there.

I have already won my case.

I do not need to prove anything to any judges at this point.

I'm just really curious how many of us there are out there?

buswarrior · December 13, 2018, 04:41:13 PM

How many of "us"...

Vehicles or busnuts?

Self starting, mechanically inclined, teach ourselves to do the things we don't know how to do, do the work on the coach ourselves...

Vs having no idea and buying the conversion and paying someone to work on it, until my money runs out...?

Bus, converted later, converted earlier...

Do we count an older Newell that has been lovingly restored by the new owner's hands?

The devil is in the definitions...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

daveola · December 14, 2018, 05:39:45 PM

I'm curious how many buses there are, whether converted by "us" or by pros.

And I know that there are many ways to read it - I'll take any estimated numbers for any of the definitions you can come up with!

Jeremy · December 15, 2018, 03:42:55 PM

Changes of title from bus to motorhome must be recorded by the DMV authorities - I don't know about in the States but in Europe there's a Public Information Request process whereby anyone can apply to receive statistics and data of that sort

Jeremy

daveola · December 15, 2018, 04:05:14 PM

That's an interesting idea, though I shudder at the thought of trying to navigate the DMV, considering how bad it is here in California.

Looking up some initial statistics, it seems they only publish vehicle types by coarse grain, such as commercial or non-commercial truck.

It would be great if we could see how many vehicles have gone from BUS to MH.