4106 near Phoenix needs work

Scott Crosby · March 05, 2016, 01:39:19 PM

Some scrap metal

lostagain · March 05, 2016, 04:40:54 PM

Scott, so what now? If she wants to sell the bus, can the block be used to rebuild it? Or are you looking for a good runner to swap in?

JC

luvrbus · March 05, 2016, 04:53:13 PM

You better mike the crankshaft the upper shell has some crazy wear,if have any black marks the cylinder wall find you another engine

chessie4905 · March 05, 2016, 04:54:41 PM

Pull the engine and install a large squirrel cage in its place and put the cats in it. When you want to go, throw in a couple of mice. For passing, toss in a bull dog.

Scott Crosby · March 05, 2016, 06:11:07 PM

They just look worn strange due to reflections and the fact we just sprayed them down with brake clean and the oil was on them strange in the pix. They actually look surprisingly good up close. Of course they are only 14 months old and it sits six months out of a year. Maybe 25k on the ?? No black heat spots on the block holes either.

luvrbus · March 07, 2016, 07:29:28 AM

That is going to be job removing those you without a sleeve puller in your suitcase

jackhanow · March 07, 2016, 05:09:08 PM

There is a bus company just off 7th just a few blocks away with a big yard and nice people. Kinda glad she wasn't around when I got there. Almost stopped by on Saturday but was on a call. I would have talked to the bus company about using some of their enormous space before I took it apart. Good thing was they have any tool you may need and like I said. They are pretty friendly. Now it's a big mess in a lot right down town Phoenix.

luvrbus · March 07, 2016, 05:18:38 PM

Quote from: jackhanow on March 07, 2016, 05:09:08 PM
There is a bus company just off 7th just a few blocks away with a big yard and nice people. Kinda glad she wasn't around when I got there. Almost stopped by on Saturday but was on a call. I would have talked to the bus company about using some of their enormous space before I took it apart. Good thing was they have any tool you may need and like I said. They are pretty friendly. Now it's a big mess in a lot right down town Phoenix.

That bus Co.is Divine Transportation good people to deal with they do a lot of outside work on older buses,it was Michelangelo up to 3 or 4 years ago

eagle19952 · March 07, 2016, 05:38:45 PM

Quote from: jackhanow on March 07, 2016, 05:09:08 PM
Now it's a big mess in a lot right down town Phoenix.

no...not really, (from another site)... Enjoy it and be glad you're not doing this in June. Have you got a decent place to work on it?.....
Yeah I'm at Kevin's yard on concrete pad

Scott Crosby · March 07, 2016, 05:46:56 PM

Those liners were tight coming out and the new .020 would have had to be driven in with a sledge hammer. They were .017 not .020. Kevin has all the right tools and we checked, double and triple checked and they were too small. After honing it's s great fit. One down three to go when they get here tomorrow. Overnight shipping was like $400 for the three Kits. The block looks good though.

jackhanow · March 07, 2016, 06:04:57 PM

So your replacing 4 sleeves and Pistons ?

Scott Crosby · March 07, 2016, 06:29:20 PM

Yes all 4 on the front lower bank were toast. Three of them were cracked liners and the 4th had a broken piston in it with missing top ring. One of the cracked liners had a piston with a hole in it.

luvrbus · March 07, 2016, 07:05:15 PM

Quote from: Scott Crosby on March 07, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
Those liners were tight coming out and the new .020 would have had to be driven in with a sledge hammer. They were .017 not .020. Kevin has all the right tools and we checked, double and triple checked and they were too small. After honing it's s great fit. One down three to go when they get here tomorrow. Overnight shipping was like $400 for the three Kits. The block looks good though.

.017 is standard for a .020 bore on a DD some fit, some you the use hone,they never bore one to the exact .020 liners vary too much even the OEM Detroit liners

jackhanow · March 07, 2016, 07:29:03 PM

Was the coolant not circulating on tha side? Seems odd one side is gone but the other is ok. I have seen that and all the cases the crossover was blocked. One time it was they didn't flip the head gasket over and the other times it was the crossover port was blocked. Or they didn't let the air out of the system at the crossover. Causing the coolant to be low on one side.

Scott Crosby · March 10, 2016, 08:57:00 AM

4106 back to life

Made it to San Diego no issues. Did great on the grades and never went over 190