HHO kit

[Cary and Don]

Has anybody heard of these? 
http://www.reliantfuelsystems.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=46

This could add that extra power we need at altitude without adding the turbo. If it actually did what it says, without toasting the engine, it seems pretty cost effective. From what we can understand, it is adding more oxygen to the air intake and hydrogen to make it burn.

Don and Cary

[Iceni John]

Caveat emptor!   If it sounds too good, etc etc.   Where does the electrical energy (to produce hydrogen and oxygen from water) come from?   Methinks the extra load on the engine to produce that much power from the alternator won't be balanced by whatever little benefit there may be (or maybe not?) from adding hydrogen and oxygen.   Also, my BS alarm went off very loudly when I read about Double-Helix Water, structured water and stable water:  http://www.reliantfuelsystems.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23_31   Is stable water what you give to horses?

John, always suspicious about something-for-nothing schemes.

[Cary and Don]

John, our experience has been that horses prefer a puddle. We were thinking that it would use distilled water.

I know they have been working on the water run electric generators for a few years and thought this would be along that model.  It is suppose to use about 30amps of 12volt.

Don and Cary

[luvrbus]

Aren't those for electronic controlled engines ?

[MB LeMirage]

It needs electronic engine control. No hopes for the 8v71 crowd in here.
Ryan.

[Lee Bradley]

John, our experience has been that horses prefer a puddle. We were thinking that it would use distilled water.

I know they have been working on the water run electric generators for a few years and thought this would be along that model.  It is suppose to use about 30amps of 12volt.

Don and Cary

Generally distilled water will not conduct enough electric for the electrolysis to work.

[Oonrahnjay]

Caveat emptor!   If it sounds too good, etc etc.   Where does the electrical energy (to produce hydrogen and oxygen from water) come from?   Methinks the extra load on the engine to produce that much power from the alternator won't be balanced by whatever little benefit there may be (or maybe not?) from adding hydrogen and oxygen.   Also, my BS alarm went off very loudly when I read about Double-Helix Water, structured water and stable water:  http://www.reliantfuelsystems.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23_31   Is stable water what you give to horses?

John, always suspicious about something-for-nothing schemes. 

      Aw, John, you're probably not even going to send the $299.99 for "plans" for the phlogiston generator that will allow your engine to run on no fuel either.  Get with it, John, and join the geniuses.  Or at least, get the dilythium crystals and turn your coach into a warp drive generator.

[Cary and Don]

Well, darn.  It sounded like a good idea.

Don and Cary

[MB LeMirage]

Generally speaking, if a system has any merit to it, some form will be used by one of the many many auto/truck/industrial/agricultural etc etc manufacturers that are out there. A truly innovative product like that would have had at least one taker, even on a small scale. All that glitters is not gold. Sorry.
Ryan.

[Iceni John]

If one introduced hydrogen and oxygen into a 2-stroke Detroit, wouldn't it just go bang and blow the airbox covers off?   Or would it become a runaway caused by ingesting flammable fumes?   Mind you, haven't some folk claimed to have used propane injection on their Detroits  -  if so, how long do those engines last?

That video of the smarmy doctor extolling the virtues of his "special" Double Helix water made me laugh, but it also made me sad that so many apparently-intelligent folk believe this nonsense.   Water is water, unless it's heavy water or one of its variants, but they're still all essentially water (or maybe essentially still water?).   Perhaps he's getting it confused with DNA?

Anyway, I'm going now to put some magnets around my fuel lines  -  I know it works because I saw it on TV.

John       

[uncle ned]

Remember if it is on the internet it is true. and now it is here.

just ask Al Gore

uncle ned