I love my new Adco cover!
 

I love my new Adco cover!

Started by belfert, December 13, 2015, 11:27:21 AM

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belfert

I just got a new Adco cover for my bus and I love it.  It actually fits properly as it is for a 43 foot motorhome, which is the length of my bus.  I should have spent the extra for Adco in the first place.  The Adco cover has straps instead of needing to tie it down.  I think the Adco will last a lot longer because it has like ten straps going underneath and it fits properly so wind isn't getting in an open zipper.

I paid $299 for the first cover and it was for a 42 foot motorhome.  I couldn't zip it all the way up because of the length issues.  This cover got destroyed in a storm.  I then ordered a Cover King cover for $320 and this one also didn't fit properly.  This one was destroyed on a windy day because I didn't realize that several of the ropes had worn through and broke.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Tom Y

Brian, This post is no good without pictures. Merry Christmas.
Tom Yaegle

edvanland

It sure cost a lot more to buy cheap and then finally figure out it is cheaper to buy the right one the first time even though it cost more. I try to remember this but guess what I am so hard headed I will still forget and buy cheap then expensive.
One day I may learn
Ed Van
MCI 7
Cornville, AZ

belfert

It turns out that this Adco cover is a complete hunk of junk.  It has holes all over the place where it is rubbing against things on the bus.  Previous covers didn't wear through from the same things.  One of the seams on the side has come apart too.  I have no idea what to do next.  I don't know if spending $600 for the most expensive Adco cover would get me a better product or not.

The best option would be building a permanent structure for the bus to be stored under, but FEMA redrew the flood maps for our area last year and now all of the previously buildable land on my lot is in a flood zone and I can't build anything in a flood zone.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

lostagain

Why do you need a cover? Buses are built to be outside.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

lvmci

what about a carport style with sun screens on the side
MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

brmax

In my old career and even more now, though in a bit different way I try to see when personnel would be around to monitor covers on equipment.
This sometimes can help estimate a need, and heck its tough covering construction and marine so trying to figure some of this can be a tough nut.
Some items on equipment will need different and more material for sure,  surprising how some corners are tough to deal with. Then there is the wind always tough from a particular side.
hope that helps cool things
Floyd

1992 MC9
6V92
Allison

belfert

Quote from: lostagain on July 07, 2016, 07:37:20 PM
Why do you need a cover? Buses are built to be outside.

Because the roof leaks.  I have tried just about everything within reason to stop the leaks.  The bus leaks at the seam between the rear fiberglass cap and the aluminum roof for sure.  I have caulked it so many times I have lost count.  The caulk eventually cracks and starts leaking.  I have tried cheap caulk and stuff that cost $20 or $30 a tube.  The fiberglass and aluminum do not expand/contract at the same rate.

I hate having to cover the bus because it limits using the bus or even doing any work on the bus.  It is a total pain to remove and put on any of the RV covers by yourself.  I live alone so I have nobody to help me.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

thomasinnv

For your leak at the cap i would remove all traces of silicone and use eternabond. Also known as stick-n-bond. Will stick to anything but silicone, and works very well. I have used it many times on end caps on stick and staple units with good results.
Some are called, some are sent, some just got up and went.

1998 MCI 102-DL3
Series 60 12.7/Alison B500
95% converted (they're never really done, are they?)

Jeremy

On my bus, the only place on the entire bus where there are rivets (as well as adhesive) is the joint between the fibreglass caps and the aluminium roof panels. As well as the fibreglass-aluminium panels themselves overlapping, the joints are also covered with quite a heavy (maybe 4mm thick) aluminium strip on top, which is riveted-down maybe every 150mm or so into the steel frame below.

Got to be significant that they went to that amount of trouble on those particular joints when every other join on the body is just stuck together with adhesive.

Jeremy
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belfert

Quote from: thomasinnv on July 07, 2016, 08:29:26 PM
For your leak at the cap i would remove all traces of silicone and use eternabond. Also known as stick-n-bond. Will stick to anything but silicone, and works very well. I have used it many times on end caps on stick and staple units with good results.

I don't think I've ever used a silicone caulk on this.  I actually have a roll or 4" or 6" Eternabond that I bought in large part to put on this crack, but never did.

I know I have a few other leaks I need to fix which is why I just cover the bus.  Some day I need to fiberglass the big hatch in the rear closed, but it has to be done when it is over 65 degrees at night so the polyester resin cures properly.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

belfert

It looks like Adco is going to replace the cover due to the seam coming apart.  I still need to deal with the roof leaks so I don't have to worry about a cover.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Gerry H

Brian: FYI There are 2 Adco covers that I'm aware of. 1 is for summer only, not MN weather and a 2nd winter version. Glad to hear they are going to replace your cover since it fits, but if you continue to tie it by the underneath straps, you will just rip it out again. Think of it as a 43ft bag of wind/boat sail (when the wind blows) The amount of stress on everything is tremendous. I tried regular 350ftlb nylon rope, broke it, then super expensive 1000ftlb sailing rope, broke it, then 1 " 1500ftlb cargo strap, didn't break it, but ripped a seam out. THEN I FIGURED IT OUT. I took 2"x27' cargo straps over the roof from bottom edge to bottom edge and divided my 40' bag of air into 5 - 8ft bags of air. HUGE DIFFERENCE. I still use a couple of nylon ropes (3) underneath to keep it tight to the body, but there's no huge stress anymore. Menards has them now for a little over $7 ea. Buy 5 and divide yours into 6 short bags. I also got some thick flexible rubber (3"x5"x3/16") to line the cargo hooks with to protect the cover material from the metal edges of the bus. I've had no issues with my Cover King since I changed my way of baggin' it. This won't help your leaking issue, but should stop you from shredding another expensive cover. I put this on and take off completely by myself. Attached photos Good luck Gerry H
Forest Lake, Minnesota
Land of 10,000 mosquitoes and a few cool buses

belfert

The problem I had with my Cover King was my own fault.  Some of the ropes going underneath had snapped and I was lazy and didn't replace them in time.  I had ropes wrapped all the way up and over the bus.  I think it was your suggestion.

I can get the cover on and off by myself, but it is a huge chore.  The wind has to be almost perfectly calm to put on or remove the cover by yourself or it turns into a sail.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

DoubleEagle

With all the problems of tying down the cover and the wind flapping the cover, I have to wonder if the paint on the coach is being chafed or even worn through to primer. If that is the case, it might be better to not cover, or build a garage for it.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746