Rustoleum fail

[Zephod]

I washed the bus, sanded the paint and then rinsed off the dust, allowed it to dry, painted with Rustolium and 10 months later... Rustoleum failure. I contacted Rustoleum and they asked the batch number and announced they were sending a refund. Looks like there are known bad batches of Rustoleum out there.

Looks like I'll have to repaint the entire bus after scrapping the Rustoleum junk off *sigh*
https://goo.gl/photos/mX2iMynW8TUaQmw5AA

[lostagain]

Rustoleum, and all the same crap under other names, is not very good paint. I use it on some things, but the rust comes through in about a year. I sprayed some on a Suzuki Tracker used on the property, and it is faded after a couple of years, and some rust is coming through also. I would not use it if I wanted a quality job.

JC

[bobwoo]

Even the big boys have paint issues. Ford had a major problem in the early 2000's. That is why you see 1000's of Ford's running around with peeling paint. The primer is as if not more important than the top paint. If it's bare metal an etching primer or a two part acrylic primer might be better ways to go.

[opus]

Mine "failed" too but it wasnt the paint, it was the prep work....which I knew was coming.  Cant wait to hear how you take it all off!

[Zephod]

I'm not going to muck about with the paintwork door a while. I've just got the shower working. My next task is to put fresh and foul water tanks under the bus.

When I do work on the paint, I'll look at paint from Tractor Supply that isn't Rustoleum.

To get the paint off, I'll just soda blast if I can get Harbor Freight cheapass blaster gun to do anything meaningful (other than spraying nice plumes of soda around)

[luvrbus]

Rustoleum has some good paint but you cannot buy it at a box store or Ace Hardware the stuff is expensive too 

[chessie4905]

   Is that metal galvanized? Did you prime it with red oxide primer? Brush or spray?

[Iceni John]

Don't give up on Rustoleum, at least for now.   There are not only different grades, but different parts of the country have different VOC versions depending on their local AQMD.   Rustoleum Professional has slightly more solids in it than their Stops Rust (which is what the big box stores mostly sell):
http://www.rustoleum.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/RustoleumUSA/TDS/English/CBG/Professional/PRO-09_0313_Professional_Enamel_Gallons_TDS.ashx
http://www.rustoleum.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/RustoleumUSA/TDS/English/CBG/Stops%20Rust/SRT-02_Stops_Rust_Enamel_Brush_TDS.ashx
Then there is also the Industrial grade, but it's not available in some areas due to air-quality limits.
Somewhere on Rustoleum's messy website is a chart showing what's available in different areas  -  I can buy only 100VOC paint here because SCAQMD are the local smog-Nazis, but if I drove to San Diego or outside the LA basin I could buy faster-drying and harder paint!

My go-to hardware store has a few cans of 400VOC Professional (don't ask how or why!), so I may well buy it when I paint my bus.   If you can find a way to buy their Industrial paint, that should work well on a steel bus body.   However, preparation is everything.

John 

[Zephod]

I used Rustoleum Professional
No primer - I washed and scuffed the yellow bus paint.

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[digesterman]

We buy it in the gallon cans from grainger, they have a good line of the industrial and it holds up very well in harsh environments.

[luvrbus]

The "professional" is the cheap grade sold by the box stores and hardware stores lol called marketing buying what you think is top notch because of the name 

[Zephod]

The "professional" is the cheap grade sold by the box stores and hardware stores lol called marketing buying what you think is top notch because of the name 

Nah. If I see "professional" on anything I just ignore the "professional" bit as marketing garbage. If I could have found something better I'd have used it. Trouble is, all Lowe's sells is Rustoleum oil based paint and latex interior paint. I made the mistake of using latex on the bus woodwork. It looks good now but it's quickly  going to look worn.

Having been involved now in constructing my bus, I appreciate what a set of truly appalling stores Lowe's and home depot are. Their customer service is especially appalling and their head office doesn't have a clue what the hell they're selling.

If I was living anywhere but Columbia South Carolina then I'd be able to find the decent places. And the decent products. I assess the problem as being that South Carolina is just a hick state that sucks rather badly. Been trapped hers since I was imported in 2005 and this bus is my key to get the Hell out of turdville USA into a state where there are jobs, honest people and opportunities.

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[luvrbus]

Humm I take it you don't like South Carolina much 

[eagle19952]

Karma > ?

[kyle4501]

Nah. If I see "professional" on anything I just ignore the "professional" bit as marketing garbage. If I could have found something better I'd have used it. Trouble is, all Lowe's sells is Rustoleum oil based paint and latex interior paint. I made the mistake of using latex on the bus woodwork. It looks good now but it's quickly  going to look worn.

Having been involved now in constructing my bus, I appreciate what a set of truly appalling stores Lowe's and home depot are. Their customer service is especially appalling and their head office doesn't have a clue what the hell they're selling.

If I was living anywhere but Columbia South Carolina then I'd be able to find the decent places. And the decent products. I assess the problem as being that South Carolina is just a hick state that sucks rather badly. Been trapped hers since I was imported in 2005 and this bus is my key to get the Hell out of turdville USA into a state where there are jobs, honest people and opportunities.

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ROTFLMAO     

Having lived in SC most of my life, my experience in Columbia SC is very different. I have always been able to find anything I ever needed - maybe not right away, but persistence pays off.

If Lowes & Home depot are such appalling stores, why ever shop there? 

I wish you luck in your escape & that you do find the nirvana you seek. 

BTW, for future reference - listening usually pays bigger dividends than arguing/ defending/ insulting.