Engine is TOASTED

[Sam 4106]

I know this sounds too simple, BUT, did anyone put those air box covers back on with new gaskets? Might not start too well with those off. If the first mechanic thought the engine was "TOAST" he may not have put the covers back on.

Good luck, Sam

[eagle19952]

i don't hear anyone blaming the shop ....
what I hear is that the shop should be able to get the broken motor to run...and it should. unless it is actually broken. the odds of it breaking during a filter change are slim and close to none....

There is one more thing that is pretty easy to figger, beyond the isolate the fuel system, some one that has barred over enough motors should be able to detect a broken gear train, cam, bent rod or broken sleeeve simply by rotating the motor over by hand..with the valve covers off...and in 25 more minutes remove all the injectors and snoop for blown tips.

has it been cranked over by hand yet ?

we aren't there, maybe all of the beginner basics have been done....I'd still want to see the bucket.. 

[Seangie]

Hey all -

Latest update.

One of the mechanics grabbed one of these -

Hooked it up to the secondary filter and primed the crap out of it and got it running.  Only took 3 days to get there.
I am wiped out emotionally.
Glad they got it running.  I think they really just wanted it out of the shop and were willing to spend some time on it.
So they charged me for an oil change and filters and 2 hours of shop labor.  They ate the rest of the labor.
Not too bad and I have a good idea of what's wrong now.
Ill probably need at least an inframe.
We are headed to Spokane tomorrow on a limp.
I've got a mechanic there who's worked on 2 strokes for 17 years who's gonna take a look at it.
(Thanks Pete for that number)

Ill keep you all in the loop till then.  Hope we can make it up the hill!

[eagle19952]

finally

where's the avoid list

[eagle19952]

oooops...
ps i might would not shut er down till i get to spokane...were i you....

[opus]

Excellent, hope he helps! 

You have one good climb to get to Spokane.  Cant wait to hear what he says.

[robertglines1]

once several years back i had a weak transfer pump that did a similar thing wouldn't pick up out of tank on occasion but would out of a 5 gal can near filters. Also ck air restriction /filter etc like Techno had. just throwing those past things out as to reason for no prime. The engine problem is a ghost for all of dealing with old buses.  Got fingers crossed for you.   bob

[John316]

Oh Yeah! That's what I'm talking about!

That was NOT the shop for your rebuild to occur in. SO glad you got running!

Cheers!

John

[eagle19952]

Oh Yeah! That's what I'm talking about!

That was NOT the shop for your rebuild to occur in. SO glad you got running!

Cheers!

John

the way i read it they were only willing to r+r the motor and send it elsewhere for overhaul...

[Darkspeed]

I used a pump up garden sprayer full of diesel, removed the 1/4 plug on the final filter and threaded the end of the sprayer into it. pumped it way up untill i heard diesel returning to the tank and it fired right up. This was on a 6v92 that no one else could get to start because it lost  its prime.

Glad you got her going!

[chessie4905]

   One of the problems we are going to face is that experienced 2 stroke mechanics are getting hard to find. The less experienced diesel mechanic is going to be stuck with the job because the good 4 stroke mechanics don't want to fool with an unknown. Since they are pretty good, they can tell the service dept. to get somebody else to fool with it. If I owned a shop that didn't work on a coach, and old at that, I wouldn't want my best mechanics on it if there was good paying work in the shop.
The reason I asked about getting the engine hot before all this happened, You don't want it to happen again on a fresh engine

[luvrbus]

He will be fine I doubt he got the 6v92 hot or it would be leaking water at every seam,92 series can be a bear to prime they have higher pop pressure injectors than the 71 series with the old needle injectors. I bet if he drives a 100 miles the oil soaked cylinder is clean I am thinking it was fuel not oil 

He has time now to make a decision and how much of the kids education money he wants to spend   

[kyle4501]

He has time now to make a decision and how much of the kids education money he wants to spend   

If it were up to me, I'd spend ALL of my kids education money on the coach   

But, there is one little thing stopping me - She who must be obeyed . . . .

[pabusnut]

Yes---The old garden sprayer filled with diesel trick!!!

Pack up the clan and GIT  while the GITTIN' is good!

Praying for an uneventful rest of the trip.

Steve Toomey
PAbusnut

[luvrbus]

But, there is one little thing stopping me - She who must be obeyed . . . .
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I know that song to well Kyle but it's the grand kids now