Engine is TOASTED

[thomasinnv]

Have they pulled the filters and made sure they are full of fuel?

[blue_goose]

He said it ran until it quit because of error in primer settings.  They are a beast to reprime but that is what I am thinking.
Jack

[luvrbus]

I get one of the hard to prime suckers I plug the return and pump it up to about 15 lbs with fuel with the throttle wide open and turn the engine over a few seconds that will prime one.I have never came across one I could not prime in a couple of minutes 

[eagle19952]

let's quell the myth here and now....a Detroit is NOT hard to prime, poke fun at me, ignore me, hate me... if it takes more than 5 - 10 minutes to prime a Detroit.... their is something wrong with the system or the person doing it...

if after 5 minutes the motor is not running as intact then...using a hand pump and a bucket... u eliminate the entire system...make/add your own return and feed lines...

if then it will not run, u look elsewhere.

if they haven't bypassed the onboard fuel system they are in error of process.

still praying
PS i feel for you, and realize that all the long distance mechanics can be furthering frustrations, I believe the shop u are at are not trying to bamboozle you...they probably err on the side of extreme caution. I would err on the getter runnin and let her develop...till the problem is obvious

[RJ]

Where is Don Fairchild?? 

[luvrbus]

Where is Don Fairchild?? 

In Las Vegas starting his new job 

[Darkspeed]

I used a pump up garden sprayer full of diesel, removed the 1/4 plug on the final filter and threaded the end of the sprayer into it. pumped it way up untill i heard diesel returning to the tank and it fired right up. This was on a 6v92 that no one else could get to start because it lost  its prime.

[belfert]

let's quell the myth here and now....a Detroit is NOT hard to prime, poke fun at me, ignore me, hate me... if it takes more than 5 - 10 minutes to prime a Detroit.... their is something wrong with the system or the person doing it...

I got my Detroit S60 re-primed in under 45 minutes having never done it before.  Ran out of fuel pulling into a Walmart and most of the time was spent on two trips into Walmart to get a fuel can and a filter wrench.  I also had to send someone to the station to fill the can with diesel.

[Oonrahnjay]

I got my Detroit S60 re-primed in under 45 minutes having never done it before.  Ran out of fuel pulling into a Walmart and most of the time was spent on two trips into Walmart to get a fuel can and a filter wrench.  I also had to send someone to the station to fill the can with diesel.

   Yes, but an S60 is a different animal is many ways.  But good point.

[eagle19952]

  Yes, but an S60 is a different animal is many ways.  But good point.

my example was in a shop setting... one with a $110.00+ shop rate....

ps i have a bucket... in my bus.

[luvrbus]

   Yes, but an S60 is a different animal is many ways.  But good point.

Not really Bruce the 60 series that Brian owns is basically the same with MUI injectors it is not a common rail system it even uses the same fuel pump as a 2 strokes but drives off the air compressor kinda of a dumb place to drive a fuel pump IMO   

[Oonrahnjay]

Not really Bruce the 60 series that Brian owns is basically the same with MUI injectors it is not a common rail system it even uses the same fuel pump as a 2 strokes but drives off the air compressor kinda of a dumb place to drive a fuel pump IMO   

    Right, I was confused with the all-electronic S60 and S50.  Thanks for the correction.

[belfert]

One thing I didn't mention is my primary fuel filter has a button you can depress to prime the system.  What I did was to fill the secondary filter with fuel and then pumped the button a few times to try to get fuel into the system.    I then pressed the rear starter button while someone else pressed the primer button to keep fuel flowing.  It started and then ran rough for a minute until the air was all out of the lines.

I learned the hard way that the bottom 20 gallons is not usable.  We were less than 5 miles from our planned fuel stop and had made that trip several times previously, but it was really windy this time.

I hope Sean gets his engine up and running without too much expense and effort.  I would put a 4 stroke in if it were me, but it could be a problem getting it someplace that could do that work.  I was supposed to meet up with Sean and his family while they were in Minneapolis three weeks ago, but it didn't end up working out.

[belfert]

    Right, I was confused with the all-electronic S60 and S50.  Thanks for the correction.

I hate to get further off Sean's topic, but my Series 60 is just as electronic as any other Series 60.  It has a DDEC III.  If my DDEC goes out the injectors will no longer function.  I don't believe any Series 60 is MUI.

[Hard Headed Ken]

He's saying Series 60 injectors still require fuel pumped to them, they began injection when triggered by an electrical signal. They both make there own high injection pressures from the cam lobes.

Ken