Generators

Dawgs · December 16, 2014, 06:01:12 PM

I've been shopping for generators and was quite surprised to find the diesel generators in our size range are basically more expensive than a 25 to 50kw, unless you want air cooled.

harleyman_1000 · December 16, 2014, 06:11:20 PM

I have a powerteck 8000 3 cylinder diesel that came with the bus. It only has 250 hours on it. I was told that it would cost about 10,000 new? Not sure though? I only paid 8,000 for the bus, so maybe I'm ahead after all $:-\$

luvrbus · December 16, 2014, 06:15:03 PM

I think Peenhead got the deal the generator in his bus a 8kw Wirco only has 2 hrs

Dawgs · December 16, 2014, 06:22:06 PM

Still shopping, but I did find a new 8kw kabota for 6500.

harleyman_1000 · December 16, 2014, 06:23:24 PM

Quote from: luvrbus on December 16, 2014, 06:15:03 PM
I think Peenhead got the deal the generator in his bus a 8kw Wirco only has 2 hrs

Dang it Clifford, you could have at least let me feel good for a minute

harleyman_1000 · December 16, 2014, 06:26:16 PM

Quote from: Dawgs on December 16, 2014, 06:22:06 PM
Still shopping, but I did find a new 8kw kabota for 6500.

I sell you my powerteck generator (3 cylinder cat engine) for 15,000 and throw the bus in with it

oldmansax · December 17, 2014, 09:52:26 AM

Quote from: harleyman_1000 on December 16, 2014, 06:26:16 PM

I sell you my powerteck generator (3 cylinder cat engine) for 15,000 and throw the bus in with it

I'll give you the same deal for my Onan 12.5 KW with 600 Hours on it!

TOM

HB of CJ · December 17, 2014, 10:34:45 AM

I also have a friend also shopping for a nicer new 12-15 KWH water cooled 1800 rpm, (max) propane gen set for her off grid kinda remote PV farm homestead out here in SW OR USA. They want $MORE$ than for a nicer barely used smaller car! What happened to all the good RV part bargains?

Is there any way one could consider all of those standard and heavy duty SAE PTO take off points all over our Bus automatic and manual transmissions? Could not some Engineer type Bus Conversion person work up a large generator running off of such? Knowing what you doing helpful. HB of CJ (old coot)

OneLapper · December 17, 2014, 08:21:38 PM

It's not only the price of the generators, it's the price of the engine parts that are out of whack!

I'm rebuilding my Westerbeke 8kw generator. The prices are out of this world. I realize the name Westerbeke commands a price premium, but I've spent dozens of hours to cross part numbers with OEM or aftermarket Mitsubishi parts, and even those parts are stupid expensive.

Example: One piston ring set, $197! For ONE PISTON. The Westerbeke uses a 4 ring set, but Toro commercial mowers which use the same engine use a three ring set. Thank goodness Hastings make rings for it at $60 per set. It took me weeks to get the right rings.
Another Example: Oil Pan Gasket....... $121 from Westerbeke. I bought a complete gasket set for $200, but I did use a OEM head gasket. Cheap head gaskets suck, BTDT.
And Another Example: Water pump, $395 from Westerbeke. I bought a Chinese water pump for Cub Cadet tractor that uses the same engine, $85 minus $25 for the core charge! Is that Westerbeke water pump 6.5833333 times better than the Chinese one? LOL, well, maybe it is, but time will tell. The original one started leaking at 2200 hours, so I'm ahead of the game if I get more than 334 hours out of it!

Let's not even talk about injectors and injection pumps!!!

lvmci · December 17, 2014, 08:24:07 PM

B&B has a 17KW and a 10KW I think for sale, in LV, lvmci...

kwidd · December 17, 2014, 10:06:01 PM

I have a 12kv kubota powered gen that I need to sell. It has a water cooled manifold and has 2000 hrs on it. I am asking 3700 for it.

oldmansax · December 18, 2014, 06:19:18 AM

Mark,

I wish I had known you were rebuilding a Westerbeake 8KW. I have the entire engine from my Westerbeake 8KW setting in the shop. You can have it all for $375. Runs good. No smoke, burns no oil. The generator head end bearing came apart & ruined the head. I was going to put another head on it but I found a new genny. If you you want it, let me know.

TOM

Quote from: OneLapper on December 17, 2014, 08:21:38 PM
It's not only the price of the generators, it's the price of the engine parts that are out of whack!

I'm rebuilding my Westerbeke 8kw generator. The prices are out of this world. I realize the name Westerbeke commands a price premium, but I've spent dozens of hours to cross part numbers with OEM or aftermarket Mitsubishi parts, and even those parts are stupid expensive.

Example: One piston ring set, $197! For ONE PISTON. The Westerbeke uses a 4 ring set, but Toro commercial mowers which use the same engine use a three ring set. Thank goodness Hastings make rings for it at $60 per set. It took me weeks to get the right rings.
Another Example: Oil Pan Gasket....... $121 from Westerbeke. I bought a complete gasket set for $200, but I did use a OEM head gasket. Cheap head gaskets suck, BTDT.
And Another Example: Water pump, $395 from Westerbeke. I bought a Chinese water pump for Cub Cadet tractor that uses the same engine, $85 minus $25 for the core charge! Is that Westerbeke water pump 6.5833333 times better than the Chinese one? LOL, well, maybe it is, but time will tell. The original one started leaking at 2200 hours, so I'm ahead of the game if I get more than 334 hours out of it!

Let's not even talk about injectors and injection pumps!!!

luvrbus · December 18, 2014, 06:41:26 AM

I had a Universal 12.5 built in WI when Westerbeke bought that company the prices jumped by a 1000% it really ticks you off at Kobota their dealers won't even try and help with parts

OneLapper · December 18, 2014, 12:52:20 PM

Tom,

Sending you a PM.

Quote from: oldmansax on December 18, 2014, 06:19:18 AM
Mark,

I wish I had known you were rebuilding a Westerbeake 8KW. I have the entire engine from my Westerbeake 8KW setting in the shop. You can have it all for $375. Runs good. No smoke, burns no oil. The generator head end bearing came apart & ruined the head. I was going to put another head on it but I found a new genny. If you you want it, let me know.

TOM

ros · December 18, 2014, 02:41:23 PM

Henry,

Lots of generators use the 8v71 for their power source.

If you could keep the bus engine at a steady speed with some way to increase its rpms when a large load comes on, it could be done. If you just kept the bus' engine steady and not have a huge, huge load thrown on it, it probably would not need the engine speed toyed with.

Regardless of what engine, the carbon build-up would be terrible. That is why generators need to be run at maximum load regularly to burn the carbon off.

Ros

Quote from: HB of CJ on December 17, 2014, 10:34:45 AM
I also have a friend also shopping for a nicer new 12-15 KWH water cooled 1800 rpm, (max) propane gen set for her off grid kinda remote PV farm homestead out here in SW OR USA. They want $MORE$ than for a nicer barely used smaller car! What happened to all the good RV part bargains?

Is there any way one could consider all of those standard and heavy duty SAE PTO take off points all over our Bus automatic and manual transmissions? Could not some Engineer type Bus Conversion person work up a large generator running off of such? Knowing what you doing helpful. HB of CJ (old coot)