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Dave5Cs

These are mine "Airbagit" or on e bay 199.00 Aprox two gauges with 2 needles each and 4 paddle valves for up and down simple comes with the t fittings for hoses on the back. I cut out the leveling valves, don't need them anymore either like John said.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

mung

So do we really need the leveling valves on our coaches?  If not why would we want to keep them?
Vern in Central Florida
PD-4104-772

Dave5Cs

They kept a smooth ride for the passengers when in service.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Jriddle

Quote from: daddyoften on October 26, 2014, 09:40:38 AM
Ok, I guess that makes sense. I'm still learning. How's the best way to figure out the right pressure's? Trial and error? And how touchy is it? If your wrong does it put undue stress on the divine? And does that goof up your steering geometry?  Sorry about the questions.  =-O
Eric

No Problem
I'm not sure of the ride height of the PD 4107. Look in your manual if you have one or someone that knows can chime in. Measure to the ground with coach loaded and after you have the height set note the pressure on you leveling gages and you are set. If you are off a bit it won't matter much.
IMO

John
John Riddle
Townsend MT
1984 MC9

chessie4905

    In the manual position, the air leveling valves are disconnected from the leveling system and bags are controlled by the push to inflate or pull to deflate individual corners.  You would have six? (don't remember  exactly without my schematic) 1/4 inch nylon lines going to unit. Air supply, air feed from selector valve and one line to each corner. Some do this with solenoids, some eliminate the leveling system. All can work fine. The supposed twisting of the body is not a concern to me with a GM coach. Maybe can happen on a rust laden Eagle or MCI.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

Dave5Cs

Not on my MCI 5Cs mostly aluminum and Stainless Steel, not much steel on it. But they are monocoque frames. I had very little if any rust because it was in Saudi desert and then California. ;D
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Oonrahnjay

      My "air bags are steel"!!   I'd like to take a couple of leaves out and add "helper bags" to even out the ride and allow leveling.  I'd love to have a schematic on one of these systems if someone would be so kind to post it!   Would that be convenient for someone?   Thanks,  BH
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

chessie4905

   You take out leaves and might introduce swaying. If you proceed, consider adding front and rear stabilizer bars.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

Bruce,sometimes today I will find the drawing of the Eagle air bag leveling system used on the torsion it should work with springs
Life is short drink the good wine first

Jim Eh.

Quote from: luvrbus on October 24, 2014, 03:54:04 PM
This is funny I just posted a plumbing schematic for that system on Face Book

Quote from: Oonrahnjay on October 27, 2014, 05:05:04 AM
  I'd love to have a schematic on one of these systems if someone would be so kind to post it!

Ditto ...
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Jim Eh.
1996 MC12
6V92TA / HT741D
Winnipeg, MB.

sparkplug188

Copied from Cliffords Facebook to Imgur---
It is a huge image. You may have to scroll left/right to see the whole thing.


solodon

THANKS, that helps a lot.  Makes me wish I hadn't just put on new leveling valves on the rear  :-\.  I will keep this for future reference.
Don
1979 MC9
8V71,Automatic.
Indianapolis, IN
Just getting started. Bags are in, interior metal out ready to insulate and cover, then do the floor

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: chessie4905 on October 27, 2014, 06:28:38 AMYou take out leaves and might introduce swaying. If you proceed, consider adding front and rear stabilizer bars. 

    Thanks, Chessie, I'll look at that.  I have a lot of suspension capacity - my bus was built to carry 99 people and the suspension is harder than a red-headed divorce lawyer's heart!   I'm guessing that no matter what I do, I'm going to have a pretty substantial re-spec job as part of it.

    And THANKS from me, too, for the diagram!
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

Scott & Heather

Cliff has a facebook!?


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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
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Dave5Cs

So RJ I see it on BNO? Funny & and may I say Welcome to the club!...... ;D

Dave5Cs
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.