Rims on Dual Wheels

[qayqayt]

Isn't there supposed to be some kind if thin material or pad between the rims to keep the inside dual lug nuts from coming loose?  I think I recall some inquiry after a pedestrian was killed by a runaway tire and they said that piece was missing. 

[MightyThor]

on a bud wheel, if the outside nut is tight I cannot imagine any way that the inner lug could turn because the outer nut locks the stud to the outside wheel.  Am I understanding your question right?  I have not seen any kind of spacer that is supposed to keep the inner lug tight.

[luvrbus]

There is a isolator I think that what it is called between aluminum and steel wheels for corrosion purposes that all I know of   

[TomC]

Sometimes a plastic sheet is put in between a steel and aluminum wheel, or all aluminum wheel and the iron brake drum for corrosion protection. I know of no other sheet available. The only thing with Budd 2 bolt type wheels-is used never seeze to keep them from freezing up. Good Luck, TomC

[Jim Eh.]

The only way wheel nuts will not come loose is proper torque + proper re-torque (after about 100 to 300 miles). That or luck.

[akroyaleagle]

As the others have said, If you use dissimilar metals (Aluminum outside steel inside) you need the gasket.
I suspect many do not have them.

They are a large plastic disc that fits over all 10 studs and cover the area where the wheels touch.

I think they are usually yellow (or orange?) I have a couple of them in the shop but any truck tire dealer will have them.

[HB of CJ]

The old split rims would very rarely pop the lock ring and that perhaps could lead to the rim separating and the tube and tire coming off the rim?  I do remember how dangerous split rims were to non properly assemble and then adding air to.  Back in high school, (1965) auto shop class we had to watch a very graphic black and white film on what can  happen if things go wrong.  HB of CJ (old coot)

[Boomer]

Beware!  If you are a newbie do not confuse a mar ring with the thin wafer that is normally used between a steel and aluminum wheel.  A mar ring is what the tire shops use to protect the outside of the wheel from the air gun socket.  Don't attempt to use it between the inner and outer wheel, you might get a nasty surprise.

[bevans6]

I always wondered what is the correct way to check or re-torque the inner Bud cones on bud wheels?  You would have to take the outer lug nut off, or loosen it off at least, to get any kind of true measurement on the square head inner nut.  Which means torquing the outer nut from scratch.

Brian

[Oonrahnjay]

I always wondered what is the correct way to check or re-torque the inner Bud cones on bud wheels?  You would have to take the outer lug nut off, or loosen it off at least, to get any kind of true measurement on the square head inner nut.  Which means torquing the outer nut from scratch.
Brian 

       Torque???   Shurely, the manly way is to take a 3/4" drive air gun with a big black socket and slam that sucker on until the stud snaps off, right?  Any less than that and your wheel will fall off!
(/snicker mode)

[Jim Eh.]

I always wondered what is the correct way to check or re-torque the inner Bud cones on bud wheels?  You would have to take the outer lug nut off, or loosen it off at least, to get any kind of true measurement on the square head inner nut.  Which means torquing the outer nut from scratch.

Brian

LOL, I had written out a long drawn out post about the same thing, then just shortened it. It sounded a little dry.

BTW, it's a 1" drive gun.

Everything you ever wanted to know about wheels and mounting:
http://www.accuridecorp.com/files/2012/10/Accuride-Wheels-Rim_Wheel-Safety-and-Service-Manual-ACC7-0002-Rev-4-06-22-12.pdf

[TomC]

Our PDI (Pre Delivery Inspection) guy torques all wheel bolts and U bolts with a torque wrench that has a 4ft handle! Good Luck, TomC

[akroyaleagle]

If I remember this right, a 150lb guy hanging from the end of a 4 foot bar equals 600lb

Of course few of us probably weigh 150 lbs. I could use a two foot bar. Or Frankie could hang from a 6 foot bar.

[bevans6]

Well, I TORQUE them in the first place with a 4 foot torque wrench, so the whole torquing thing is no problem.  I check the torque on the front nuts and the rear outer nuts no problem.  I just don't know how to check the torque on the inner Budd cones.

Brian

[qayqayt]

Thanks for all the action on my post.  Just want to be safe.  I'm going to take the coach over to the tire shop and get them to torque all my wheels.  I have a bit of rust dripping off a couple of lug nuts.  A sign that they're possibly loose.