Eagle weight

JohnEd · July 04, 2011, 10:24:52 AM

I know it is all relative but i would like to get some idea. While at Bus-N at Rickreal last year I heard someone say their Prevost weighed 37K lbs(?) I asked why his bus was so light and was told that he had no marble or granite counter tops or other heavy construction and he was indeed "light on his feet".

So, in terms of weight, how does an Eagle compare with a Pre. I think the Eagle has bigger bays....right?

Thanks,

John

RoyJ · July 04, 2011, 11:34:14 AM

May I ask what model of Prevost that was? I'm guessing a 40' XL? I know the newer H3-45s weight that much empty.

Speaking of heavy motorhomes, I was browsing the Newell forum and can't believe how heavy those suckers are!

It's funny, they have that monster 650hp Cat / ISX, yet, after 10 minutes of 75mph cruising, the steer tire temp alarm goes off (warning of blowout) and the driver is forced to slow down to 65 mph. And that's with 315/80 tires at 130 psi! Newell acutally recommends 140psi for summer driving. Even then, Newell says to replace tires every 3 years.

Michelin pretty much developed the 365/75 tires specifically for heavy Prevost and Newell motorhomes. Those suckers can carry a 20k front axle at 75mph contiuous in summer heat, but at $1100 EACH after balancing.

Sorry for going off topic John. But I just thought it's stupid going that heavy - defeats the whole purpose of having a bus in the first place, which is a peace of mind from an over-engineered chassis.

But I'm going to guess you'll never see 57k lbs Eagles simply because they were all made before this era of supersizing everything?

luvrbus · July 04, 2011, 12:04:41 PM

John Ed here are some ratings for Eagle

45ft model 15 44,700
40ft " " 38,700
40ft model 10 38,700
40ft model 05 with 24.4 wheels Brownsville Built 38,700
40 05 with 22.5 wheels foreign built 42,000

Let the 01 Eagle guys tell you theirs I don't know

good luck

RJ · July 04, 2011, 12:09:54 PM

John -

These Eagle and Prevost numbers sure make the 4104/4106s seem like real lightweights at 25K > 27K by comparison, eh?

FWIW & HTH. . .

Bob Belter · July 04, 2011, 12:39:04 PM

Ahoy, JohnEd,

Here is my -01 Eagle, Cummins M-11/Roadranger RTO1110. It holds 275 gallons fuel, and 100 gallons water.
Bus is essentially complete, with 3ea vehicle and 10ea MH- ~~75 lb batteries. Genset is 12kw. Probably the lightest Eagle around, with another ~~1,000 lbs to finish it.
I'm an airplane guy, and I do watch weight.

Front 8560#
Front & Mains 27100#
All 31700 #
Main & Tag 22900 #
Tag ?

Fuel full -- less ~~30gal, Water Full

Original weight with a DD6V-92/Allison 750, nothing inside but a driver's seat:

Weight : 22240 lbs.
Deduct fuel, misc, adjusts to BARE BUS WT 21200 lbs.

Enjoy /s/ Bob

JohnEd · July 04, 2011, 01:25:40 PM

Curse you Bob. A pox on you RJ. Now I want a Eagle or maybe a 06. Just kidding my friends. Actually, I mean I "need" an Eagle or 4106. Thanks guys....really.

John

kwidd · July 04, 2011, 03:27:36 PM

Our 81 Prevost converted weighs in at just over 30,000 lbs loaded. We carry 100 fresh 144 fuel. It's powered by a Cummins M11 so that helps a little. The fuel mileage averages just under 10 MPG. Kent

JWallin · July 04, 2011, 04:25:17 PM

Not to change the subject, but I know in Florida that anything over 26001 lbs requires a CDL.... so are most bus nuts sporting these licenses?

Melbo · July 04, 2011, 04:39:59 PM

In New Mexico you need a class E for over 26000 if it is private

Melbo

luvrbus · July 04, 2011, 04:58:23 PM

Texas requires a class B for RV's over 26000 # found that out the hard way lol.
We have always been exempt here in AZ for a RV but that is changing in Nov a class B will be required for a RV over 26,000 #

good luck

JohnEd · July 04, 2011, 09:05:24 PM

Kent,

Thanks. That is new(to me) and great information.

John

thomasinnv · July 04, 2011, 10:30:55 PM

Clifford, what all is entailed in that class B? I am licensed in AZ. I assume they could cause you trouble if stopped by a trooper.

JackConrad · July 05, 2011, 04:57:18 AM

Quote from: JWallin on July 04, 2011, 04:25:17 PM
Not to change the subject, but I know in Florida that anything over 26001 lbs requires a CDL.... so are most bus nuts sporting these licenses?

Jim,
Check the drivers license book. Unless something has changed recently, BUSES require a CDL, but RVs do not. Last time I looked (a couple years ago), RVs only required the same drivers license as a car. We made sure our coach is titled as an RV. Jack

rwc · July 05, 2011, 05:04:31 AM

Texas requires a Class B for RV's over 26,001 but you can apply for exception if it is only driven as RV.

JWallin · July 06, 2011, 03:56:00 AM

Hi Jack, Ours is also titled as an RV.... but I'll bet the weight is around the limit, depending on how it's loaded, fuel, and so forth. I'd bet that during a spot inspection alot of bus RV's would risk being too heavy.
Jim