Somewhat confused by some posts on the cost of equipement

[happycamperbrat]

 I wanna start out right, so here goes 

Sorry Pat, but as for me Im taking my time building because I do want to do it right and I dont like redos. I have a LOT to learn, and each step of the way I have been studying and trying to learn as much as I could BEFORE proceeding. I dont want a garbage or an unsafe conversion.

As for the people that put thought and imagination into their coach instead of just dollars for ready off the shelf items....... THOSE are the guys that I really, really try to absorb everything they say. Imagination and hard work kick, blowing the kid's inheritance isnt as cool in my book. 

[FloridaCliff]

I've been reading instead of posting for some time now, and I'm a little confused to say the least!  Bussing has always been an expensive hobby, whether you buy a new bus or regenerate an older bus, I think we all agree on that!  How you select the systems in your bus has always been a personal choice.  To think that I will be the very last owner of a bus is just not being truthful!  I was raised and trained to be a craftsman and I'm very proud of the work I put into my bus!  To (excuse this next word) slop together a bus and put yourself and others in harms way on the roads is a criminal act!  I'm sure there are many that will appreciate that comment whether they like it or not! 

In the 6 years that I have been associated with this board, I've seen things change in the attitudes and opinions!  I might say in the wrong direction too!   (my opinion).  I've noticed that a majority of the older members have ceased to even post any longer and that is a shame there is so much to be learned from them!  Slopping a bus together isn't doing it "your own way",  its down right dangerous and dishonest to the next person that will end up with your conversion!  Integrity, honesty is really the only two things a person actually controls in this life! 


Consider this an opinion piece with no one individual the target!  If you are offended.........well my suggestion is simple...........I'll bend over and offer you a simple solution        you can begin kissing when you are ready!

Pat,

Since I only know you from your postings on the BBS and viewing your blog, I have to say I find your comments and closing to be "out of character" for you.

Hope you have a better day tomorrow.

Cliff

[MEverard]

I have found that most of the information I have seen always stresses safety first. If a person is building on a budget I believe most are talking about interior finishes. I have never heard anyone suggest the cutting of corners. The use of a used generator instead of a new one does not make the bus unsafe.

I am the proud owner of a 1960 GMC PD 4104, and I will not have all of the bells and whistles that the new coaches have. However, my bus will be safe and the interior is something I will be proud of.

Mike

[Chopper Scott]

I'm kind of wondering what triggered this post myself Pat. Your blog and what you have done is incredible to say the least and I can say everyone that has ventured through your blog is amazed. I sure hope you didn't point to anyone in general. I know one thing however and we all can't wait to see your final product and are loving  watching it's growth through your blog. I'm making faux counter tops and just put in  manufactured laminate flooring in my bus. I think the real stuff is a waste. Just my 2 cents.

[Chopper Scott]

I guess I shouldn't add more but I have to wonder also how many of us can build a bus like you have Pat with no limit on when it is done or what the final cost will be. Something to consider.

[Barn Owl]

I don't get to read every post, can you link to the ones you are referring to?

[gus]

I don't understand the point of the first post?

Is it unless we all build buses to his satisfaction we shouldn't do it at all?

Is it if we don't drive a Prevost we should stay off the road?

Is it if we are not master craftsmen we shouldn't even try?

If a bus is safe the rest is up to the individual and not subject to someone Else's  approval. My theory is; simpler is better.

The post is a masterpiece of subterfuge.

No matter what the point is, the last comment was entirely unnecessary.

[zubzub]

Some folks seem to be taking this personally, I think the OP was just pointing out that builds should be safe and secure.....nothing wrong with that, they should be.  He also feels these values are not being expressed much here....can't say I agree.  The forum oscillates   from hyper safety to super "whatever",  kind of reflects the community.  You can build safely and securely without spending tons of money, some $$$ is always going to be involved unless you have access to a free scrap yard and tons of time.

[Fred Mc]

As others have said most posts on here that deal with coach building have mostly to do with interiors. I would like to know what prompted the OP. Surely there must be some examples he could share.

[LarryN 4106]

Some folks seem to be taking this personally, I think the OP was just pointing out that builds should be safe and secure.....nothing wrong with that, they should be.  He also feels these values are not being expressed much here....can't say I agree.  .........

Well, if I recall the verbage for those that don't agree, start kissing....

Frankly, I cannot imagine anyone NOT taking the original post "personally". Plus, that post is hardly compatible with the sentiments expressed in his avatar sig.

[artvonne]

  Why does anyone even bother to comment on this crap? Y'all act like your guilty of something.

  You feel guilty cuz you bought a used Gen?

  You feel guilty cuz you put in laminate flooring?

  You feel guilty cus you dont own a Prevost?

  You feel guilty cus your trying to save fuel, buy lower cost tires, work within a budget?

  How sad is that? Y'all worked hard, you spent hard earned money, and you came here for fellowship and answers so you could do the best job your able. I worked in the RV industery building pos campers and repairing RV's. Most of it is cheap and some of it is downright crude and dangerous. But it still gets that lil RV tag saying its met all the standards. I havent seen anything here that comes close, and certainly nothing dangerous. I would say if someone dont like how im doin, they can kiss mine.
 

[wal1809]

Sure seems to be a whole lot of butt kissin going on around here lately.

[luvrbus]

26 responses 26 different takes on the subject how about a poll lol

good luck

[artvonne]

Sure seems to be a whole lot of butt kissin going on around here lately.

I aint kissin nobodies. How bout you?

[artvonne]

how about a poll lol

  I cant wait to see the questions.