How we get a bad reputation!

[Eagle Andy]

Don I could not have said it Better . The Few ruin it for the manny We need to police our own and Iam not basfull about saying something. When I lived in Cody the abuse that would go on in the walmart parking lot was shameful. All shapes and sizes would use that parking lot for setting up camp for a week or more and not think twice about leaving there a mess. anyway Iam off my Box

[cody]

Now I'm scared, I don't remember you living in cody lol, 

[Christyhicks]

I've heard about some of the stuff that live in Cody, but not Mr. Andy . . . in fact, I heard that Cody was "full of it" . . . hmmmmm.  Christy Hicks

[cody]

I'm crushed

[Ed Hackenbruch]

One thing that my dad told me when i was very young and that i have always remembered,...."You can work for a lifetime to build a good reputation but you can ruin it in a few seconds".

[FloridaCliff]

Well, there is a simple solution to help these guys.  I would suggest that if you truly feel these are great guys who are doing no harm to the area, I'm sure if you contact the county authorities and let them know you have property where these guys can put their buses and live in them, I'm sure they would pass that info along to them.  Christy Hicks

Christy,

Couldn't agree more!

I am always amazed by those who think people have the right to be a squatter on some land just because they want to, and then raise holy hell when they are told to get off.  "Just because you think its yours, don't mean it is"

Also I totally disagree with the use of the word "WE", its "THEY and this specific situation doesn't have anything to do directly with probably 99.9%of us, if at all.

It should be "How THEY get a bad reputation".

I have not met one single person who I would confuse with that situation from the Boards or at a rally.

I did suggest this be moved to the OT board, but alas, I was vetoed......

just my opinion,

Cliff

[Len Silva]

The only argument in favor of the squatters is that they say they have been there for ten years.  That is a sort of implied consent that may work in their favor.

[FloridaCliff]

The only argument in favor of the squatters is that they say they have been there for ten years.  That is a sort of implied consent that may work in their favor.

The only successful argument's for implied consent that I have seen, involved ingress/egress onto owned property.

Basically where one property owner used anther's to gain access to theres, I am not talking about being land locked either.

And then you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the actual owner knew you were using it.

[Paladin]

The only argument in favor of the squatters is that they say they have been there for ten years.  That is a sort of implied consent that may work in their favor.

Or maybe it began with a few responsible people who in turn attracted more squatters and maybe only recently has it gotten really bad or more complaints lodged. A large sudden influx of people who abuse the privilege, and it is a privilege indeed can ruin it for those who were there first and in the end the rest of us.

[kyle4501]

If their presence was acknowledged by the land owner & they were given permission by the owner - is a very different situation than if the land owner had no knowledge. In SC, if the land owner knows, you can't take it. It is a very complex set of rules to say the least - I'm in the middle of that now with family & neighbors over land that has been in the family since it was given to an ancestor to "settle the wilderness".

You can choose your actions, but you can't choose the consequences.

Some are homelessness by choice - some like the 'vagabond' lifestyle. I'm OK with that, but I'm not OK with the idea that they are entitled to things the rest have to pay for.

If someone chose to live that lifestyle, it is not the responsibility of mainstream society to subsidize their existence. That subsidy should be reserved for the helpless.
Hiding behind the claim of being "homeless" is an affront to those who are truly homeless by circumstances beyond their control or influence.

(Read Mr Sharkey's 30 years in a house truck  http://www.mrsharkey.com/busbarn/30years/page0  - it will provide insight into an alternative lifestyle that looks at mainstream society in a different way.)

Interesting how some make a game out of maximizing their benefits while minimizing their contributions. . . If we all did that, it wouldn't be long before there were no benefits to be had.

[grantgoold]

Looks like this post accomplished its goal. Got people talking about the issue.

Thanks for all the opinions and cordial discussion.

Grant

[RJ]

Kyle -

"Interesting how some make a game out of maximizing their benefits while minimizing their contributions. . . If we all did that, it wouldn't be long before there were no benefits to be had."

Which seems to be precisely the track the current crop of clowns in DC has got this country on. . . sadly.


Grant -

It was a family of characters in the ex-skoolie below that got ONP banned at one of the local Wal-Marts here in Fresno.  Squatted for about 10 days. . .

[Dave5Cs]

RJ;
How long did it take you to paint that. I like all the storage upstairs too,LOL

Dave

[boxcarOkie]

Kyle -

Which seems to be precisely the track the current crop of clowns in DC has got this country on. . . sadly.


Grant -

It is so easy to blame it all on someone else, as American's we have grown fond of nailing the other guy for our problems and our ills, that way we are off the hook.

Who elects worthless politicians year after year and wonders why nothing gets done?
We do.
Who is it that puts these incompetents in office, and when they ____ up
we allow them to stay another term?
We do.
Who is that embraces the unappealing evil things of life, and toss away the good
We do.
Who hires illegal immigrants?
We do.
Who is it that is constanty complains about them, but allows them to stay.
We are.
Who buys the narcotic's that destroy American families?
We do.
Who redistributes the wealth of hardworking people,
to give it to the nonproductive among us, just to feel good?
We do.
Who complains when big business's make millions in profits
for supplying millions of jobs
We do.
Who buys their products after they outsource your fellow Americans' job overseas
We do.
Who is it amongst us, that celebrate foul mouthed rock stars
and Hollywood idols who supply us with nothing but trash.
We do.
Who complains about $50 – $60 tanks of gasoline,
and then buy $75 worth of useless PowerBall tickets – Scratch offs?
We do.
Who sits back and listens to hate speech but won't tolerate
a moderate disagreement from others?
We do.
Who voted liquor by the drink to support education?
We did.
Who voted in the Indian casinos and lottery for better schools.
We did.
Who is going bankrupt from the same industries we voted in to fix our problems?
We are.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt said it best .... "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."

We have found the enemy and it is us.

BCO

[luvrbus]

Don always comes through lol I love it Don a lot of truth written there