Air drain valves on wet/dry tank
 

Air drain valves on wet/dry tank

Started by bryanhes, March 12, 2010, 09:42:54 PM

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bryanhes

My drain valves are leaking air pretty badly so I am replacing them. Problem is the type of valves that were on it are a positive lock type (I think). They make a click when closing. I had replaced my coolant shut-off valves and they look similar but not a positive lock type. Maybe they will work here. Just not sure if they would hold up to the pressure. I thought possibly these had an o-ring but are just brass to brass.

Anyone know where I can get these? Already checked Napa. Maybe Luke?

Below is a picture of the valve.

Thanks,
Bryan


buswarrior

Ask the NAPA what they do have.

Drain valves are nothing special.

As long as there's some resistance to it's being opened, get the threads to match.

This would be a good time to add a valve that will accept a male air tool fitting for another place to air up the coach/add alcohol/take a pressure reading.

Teflon tape on the install.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

jackhartjr

Any truck trailer or truck dealer will sell you an inexpensive drain valve that you tie a cable to and when you pull it, then the valve drains.
Jack
Jack Hart, CDS
1956 GMC PD-4501 #945 (The Mighty SCENICRUISER!)
8V71 Detroit
4 speed Spicer Trannsmission
Hickory, NC, (Where a call to God is a local call!)

Dreamscape

Bryan, I would not recommend using Teflon tape on your air fittings, use joint compound for pneumatics instead. It's a little messier to use but worth the effort. It works better than the tape. I use miles of the stuff before I found out that it can mess with vavles if even the slightest thread of tape gets in the system. ;)

Paul
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Our coach was originally owned by the Dixie Echoes.

Ed Hackenbruch

I had that type of valve on my tanks.  I changed them all out for the lanyard type drain valves from Napa, about $15 each.
Used to own a 1968 MCI 5A and a 1977 5C.

bryanhes

BW,
I thought the other valves might work. Was just concerned about air pressure. They have some with the same male and female ends. I already installed a valve off my muffler (ping tank, one of the first things I did). Sure makes it nice to air up the system without running the engine.

Paul,
I will keep that in mind. I have used Teflon on a few things. I wonder if I got a piece sucked back into my check valve off the rear left  air leveling arm  ??? because i seem to loose air quicker than before I changed the air bag in the rear  ::)

Ed & Jack,
These are located right inside my access door for fuel. They run vertical with the bulkhead.
My wet/dry tank on the GMC is above the batteries then the lines run forward through the bulkhead and turn down beside the fuel tank. Then a copper line runs to the bottom of the coach for moisture to drain out.
I don't thing lanyards would work well here.

Thanks guys,
Bryan


gus

Bryan,

Those old type valves are a pain in the neck, they are often very hard to turn. I have some on old trucks and I usually end up using pliers to open them. I'm going to replace them with the spring type.

When possible, the spring loaded valves w or w/o lanyards are best. If you don't need a lanyard use an old key ring. I realize they won't work for you because of the drain pipe.

It would be great if you could find the right size ball valve with a stainless steel ball, they are really easy to turn. I don't know if they are made in 1/8" NPT which yours probably are.
PD4107-152
PD4104-1274
Ash Flat, AR

bryanhes

My valves are 1/4" pipe thread on both ends. I picked a couple up at Napa today. Are a little different but are supposed to be rated for 300psi. They are a little smaller but the lever turns easily enough. So I will put them on tomorrow. This should take care of a majority of the air leaking.

Here are the new valves.

Bryan




gus

I'm surprised those valves are still made, look almost the same as the old one.

They should make good cooling system drains.
PD4107-152
PD4104-1274
Ash Flat, AR

bryanhes

Gus,

Funny you mention that. I also used the same valves on my coolant filter lines a month ago. That was why I was a little apprehensive about them working for 120psi on the air system.

Installed them on the air side and they work great and seem to hold the pressure fine (supposed to be rated to 300psi). Although now that I have fixed the two valves from my wet/dry tank it exacerbated the leak at the auxiliary tank drain valve. So back to Napa I went to pick up yet another valve  ::) I did however forget that I need one more for the third coolant shut off valve  ???. At least they are only 5 minutes away.

They are $13.33 + tax. So at this point I have about $87 in valves but the leaks are going away  ;D

For anyone needing valves for coolant or air the Napa part# G33710-0404

Bryan
 

Dreamscape

Thanks Bryan, I need to pick up a couple myself! Good Score! ;)

Paul
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Our coach was originally owned by the Dixie Echoes.

bryanhes

Your welcome Paul  ;D
It seems that with all the spraying I have done to find little leaks the larger ones are at the old valves. I have found one I think at a T junction but the valves are definitely big bubble blowers. I did not notice the one at the auxiliary tank until I replaced the other two on the wet/dry tank. Then I could hear it as I walked by my tool door. Never heard it before  ???
Maybe she will be tighter than a frogs butt before I know it  :D :D

Bryan