Air tank problems.
 

Air tank problems.

Started by johns4104s, September 15, 2009, 05:59:26 PM

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johns4104s

The wet tank (front drivers side) was making a rattling noise, over the pit I found air and water bubbles leaking from the top of the large brass one way valve# 223 (which has a arrow pointing down). Taking this off the tank. Also on Checking the bottom valve, Expello 24 volt M/L #995106. The power (24 volt) was not connected the exhaust outlet had a plug in it?

So I feel I should replace the the the one way valve, hopfully I can get this from a truck supply. The brass fitting joining the copper incoming line though the bottom of the coach is going to be to hard to line up and not cross thread. So I will use flex air hose extend the copper line and with a few turns enter the top of the new one way valve.

At the bottom of the tank I will completely replace the Expello 24 volt valve with a manual pull valve.

Does anyone have any input?

Thanks

John


buswarrior

Sounds good to me.

Fasten the extension plumbing securely. No potential for movement when you are done.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

johns4104s

Thanks, Buswarrior,

I forgot to say the tank was completely full of water and light brown sludge stuff.


John

buswarrior

You will be pleased with the reduced compressor cycling, less apparent air consumption on brake applications, but slightly longer air up times from empty, now that the volume of that tank has been returned to service.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

DaveG

That is why we drain our air tanks!

johns4104s

DaveG

The tank had a automatic 24 volt disconnected drain on it. Have you checked yours? What do you have for a drain on your wet tank, auto or manual??

John

gus

John,

You're really confusing me here - front wet tank and 24v??

What are you driving, it surely isn't a 4104? Must be your MC9.
PD4107-152
PD4104-1274
Ash Flat, AR

johns4104s

Sorry Gus I should have put it in the post. Its a MCI 9,

John

NewbeeMC9

MIne are all manual with cable running out to the wheel wells.
It's all fun and games til someone gets hurt. ;)

gus

I added one of those automatic valves to my wet tank but it never worked. Always had one on the dry tank.

My ping tank never has any water?

I went back to manual with cables to the outside, no worries about freezing this way.
PD4107-152
PD4104-1274
Ash Flat, AR

buswarrior

Automatic drain valves are not particularly reliable at doing their job.

Great concept in their designed operation, however, they do not seem to function as intended as time goes by.

For a busnut, in my opinion, manual drains, and watching what comes out, is a better way to go.

With manual drains, you positively know they have worked, and for preventive maintenance purposes, you want to see what it is that comes out.

If you don't see the drainage, how would you know you are suddenly pumping oil or that there is an increase in water?

Put a knee on the ground and watch what comes out!

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

DaveG


John316

Is it normal to have water in your tanks? I check our often, and we are always dry. We also replace the desiccant cartridge every year, so could that have something to do with it?

God bless,

John
Sold - MCI 1995 DL3. DD S60 with a Allison B500.

buswarrior

A good air drier will remove close enough to all the moisture to say it gets it all.

John316, you have a good air drier, and well done on doing the desiccant annually!

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

John316

Thanks BW. I was wondering! ;D

I just got this year's cartridge. It was from MCI, and I got it delivered for 50 (I think). I got it because I wanted free shipping, and needed one anyways ;D.

God bless,

John
Sold - MCI 1995 DL3. DD S60 with a Allison B500.