what would you do?

[Busted Knuckle]

Personally I'd just drop it and move on. (like I did on the other subject) But then again my opinion is just that! YMMV! 

I have no personal interest in either one, just voicing my opinion.   BK 

And by the way I have no personal beef with ACE (or anyone else on the board for that matter!) and still feel he is a well qualified bus converter, judging from his past projects. FWIW!

[FloridaCliff]

Cliff I wish I knew!
Trust me, I was kind of in shock when he told me initially that they didn't have any. Then as I walked out, I thought oh well, the guy made a mistake the day before and so be it but it wasn't until he confronted me afterwards that pissed me off!

There are no gray areas in MY end of the story other than a few of the goodbye words have been changed to allow posting!

What I still can't understand is, he didn't know me from adam on the phone and was willing to sell it to me but when I actually arrived as I said I would he suddenly had none BUT, after his receptionist obviously told him of our conversation, he decided I GUESS, that I was just a private consumer and not any compitition. Again, I'm speculating!

Ace

Well, you answered my query, I guess the unknown "gray area" is from the other party to your conversation.....

If your unhappy with a vendor, talk with your greenbacks.....No cash flow, No business.....

Cliff

[kyle4501]

Kyle that was a nice try to relate this situation with the slide out thread but rediculously different in many ways.
Let me say that from what I know and see, Creative Coach does some really nice work although a lot of it is farmed out to experts like myself. True they have their own body and paint guys and they do a subperb job but... If the guy is going to lie over 12 bucks, imagine what story they would feed you over 12,000!!!
That although a measley 12 bucks threw up a red flag to me and it should be to everyone else whether you have already done business with them or plan to. Buyer beware!

Ace

Wasn't trying to relate them. I just saw what I thought was a curious coincidence:

Case1- concerns a verbal agreement over the phone to buy something from a vendor who does what appears to be good service work according to their website.
When customer shows up, vendor declines to sell the stuff & makes 'excuses'. As customer is leaving, vendor meets him in parking lot with a different story & parts are now available for sale at the prior agreed price.

Result-
The vendor is condemned due to the 'excuses' even though no money was lost and part was made available before customer left. Also, there was no consideration for the quality work done by the talented service technicians.

I am curious as to why you would rush to judgement when the guy is trying to talk, i mean, he did run out into the parking lot. I wasn't there, so I don't know the answer.


Case 2- concerns a different vendor who also has a nice website showing examples of their service work. This vendor already has a reputation resulting from some contracts that were signed before any $$$ was transferred, yet those customers never got what was contracted for (– according to a jury of 12).

Result-
Vendor is praised for doing such good work while insinuations were made that the victims of the pre-paid, unfulfilled contracts were somehow responsible since they should have 1) known better, 2) done their homework, 3) seen the completed product before paying.


So, you have my apologies, you are right. They are totally different. Yep, totally.
silly me.

[white-eagle]

ace,

i got into this late, but i'd have sent Fran down.  You should have sent Susan or one of the other Bluegrass Babes that you must have.  that would have alleviated any doubts as i'm sure they would have just sold it to her.

i get kinda testy with people that play games also.  i'm not into such things, but there are those that do.  i had one guy write me a letter after his wife emailed me about a product we sell.  he wanted me to tell him all my sources and how we do it so he could compete against us.  Duhhhhhh.  i don't think so.

[HighTechRedneck]

... he wanted me to tell him all my sources and how we do it so he could compete against us.  Duhhhhhh.  i don't think so.

Just say, "Ancient Chinese secret!"   

[JohnEd]

Ace,

You seem to be short fused, volitile, judgemental and reactionary.   Just some of the many things I have come to admire about you and wish to emulate.

John

[Blacksheep]

John I'm really not volitile or quick tempered. I'm really pretty low keyed believe it or not. Ask anyone that knows me! I guess I've been handed a lot of raw deals in life and I keep my guard up with any dealings. I divorced a liar about 14 yrs ago and don't take being lied to too easy!
I'm a tell it like I see it kind of guy and have made a few enemies because of it but for every one I lose, I seem to gain two. I don't like to candy coat anything in life including ME. It will always come back on you one way or another!
Now I got my sika flex today and only thing I wish I would have had was an air powered gun to install it on the panel that was to be glued! It sure would have been a lot easier on the thumbs!
Anyway, I emailed the liar at CC and am waiting for a response IF I GET ONE!
Ace

[JohnEd]

Ace,

Not volitile OR quick tempered?    Hrumhp....Well, nobodys purfect....I guess.   We can still be friends...sorta.

John

[Hartley]

Let it go but never forget...

Someday they may need something that is conveniently out of stock on your shelf....

A reward that you can afford to wait for....


Dave...

[Blacksheep]

Dave yea I figure time is on my side now as sooner or later they will call for me to do a rip out and an install of some type flooring in one of their customer's RV's and I'll get my chance to get back at them! Will I do it? Probably not, but it will give me the opportunity to remind him/them of how they do business with the general public!
By the way, I still haven't received a reply to my email, but I didn't expect one either! Kind of similar to the emails I sent to some particular members of this board.
Hope your doing ok on your end!

Ace

[Kwajdiver]

I tend to agree with ACE, I don't like people that play games.     This time may be $12.00.  Next purchase might be $1,200.  Once I feel like I have not been treated fairly, I wouldn't go back....ever.

Just my 2 cents,

Bill

[Gary '79 5C]

Ace,
I think you did the correct thing given the circumstance as presented to you. I agree fully.
I went to a Toyota Dealer, to gather info on a SUV for my wife, as I have been to Ford & Honda previously. In talking to the salesman who was up as I walked, I learned that another dealership purchased this Toyota one, and My PIA secretary's Ex works there. I have known him for 6 years, but not close. As I relate this to my salesman, the Ex walks by, I introduce myself as he did not remember the name. The Ex states "Just another guy like his coworkers who can't make a decision"
Wow, that made an impression. The reason I am scouting for info and lookin is that my wife is disabled, I was short listing the competition. My deal is cash/ no trade. I am sure the dealerships are full of similiar customers.
I indicated that I could and have made a decision and walked out.

I would not normally have done so, but I am still putting up with his Ex's BS at work....

ACE, I am in your corner.

Thanks for listening,
Gary P