How much does an RTS weigh on the hoof?
 

How much does an RTS weigh on the hoof?

Started by ChuckMC8, April 21, 2008, 09:46:46 AM

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ChuckMC8

Anyone know how much an RTS weighs with the fiberglass transit seats installed?
Far better is it to dare mighty things,to win glorious triumphs,even though they may be checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much,because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.  Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)

HighTechRedneck

I recall seeing somewhere that a stock 40' x 102" seated RTS weighed roughly 27,000 pounds.  That withstands a reallity check of 47 passengers at an average weight of 150# plus the potential for a few standing (mine had 10 wrist straps for standing passengers) and still being within the GVWR of 36,000 pounds.

superpickle

My 1970 T6H4521 fishy 35ft and just over 20,000 lbs empty.   :)
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Runcutter

Chuck, just checked the maintenance manual that came with some RTS's I bought around 1983.  Gross Vehicle Weights for a 35 footer at 35,000 (12,500 front, 22,500 rear).  Forty-footer, 36,900 GVWR,13,000 front 23,000 rear (both with 1100-20 tires). 

Subtracting passenger loads, (if I recall from those days, at 140 lb/passenger) - say 50 passengers for a 35, 60 passengers for a 40 (remember, standees for the nitpickers that want to argue) - you come around you get to 28,000 on a 35-footer, 28,400 on a 40-footer.  Stainless steel welded monocoque transit - assembled in 5-foot cross-section modules, when compared with riveted aluminum/steel on other coaches, that 28,000-29,000 zero-passenger curb weight (full fuel) sounds about right to me. 

Perhaps one of the RTS guys that has had his coach on a scale will chime in with closer numbers.

Arthur
Arthur Gaudet    Carrollton (Dallas area) Texas 
Former owner of a 1968 PD-4107

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donnreeves

I never weighed my 35' RTS before converting it,but it weighs 27,600 fully converted, empty holding tanks 160 gal fuel.  Donn

ChuckMC8

Far better is it to dare mighty things,to win glorious triumphs,even though they may be checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much,because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.  Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)

Runcutter

Chuck, just had a thought.  If you're talking about the ex-DART RTS's, remember too that they're 40-foot 102', not 96's.  That will add a few pounds.

Arthur
Arthur Gaudet    Carrollton (Dallas area) Texas 
Former owner of a 1968 PD-4107

Working in the bus industry provides us a great opportunity - to be of service to others

ChuckMC8

Looks like this one (that runs and drives good) will sell for less than scrap value in Atlanta  :(
(Its not mine and I dont know the guy thats selling it,I just ran across it in an online classified ad and wanted to see how the scrap price vs asking price)
Far better is it to dare mighty things,to win glorious triumphs,even though they may be checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much,because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.  Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)

Runcutter

I wonder who Chapel Express is, and why do they want to free him/her?

Arthur
Arthur Gaudet    Carrollton (Dallas area) Texas 
Former owner of a 1968 PD-4107

Working in the bus industry provides us a great opportunity - to be of service to others

HighTechRedneck

Quote from: Runcutter on April 23, 2008, 06:59:51 AM
I wonder who Chapel Express is, and why do they want to free him/her?

Arthur

My guess is Free Chapel Express is a church bus for this church: Free Chapel - Gainesville, GA

Songman

Here's the info for the 89 I had. It was the long haul version with the heavy high back seats and the ZF transmission so it weighed a bit more than most. Seems like it was 29,900 empty.