Eagle on a spartan ? ?

[maria-n-skip]

Was checking out Ebay and there is a 45' eagle on a brand new spartan chasis.

  Why would someone do that? It has to be expensive!

Skip

[tekebird]

come on now......how can you ask a question like that here......LOL

the Eagle was probably beyond salvage rust wise from the looks of the front clip.  CHassis was probably a second or   somnething.

good example of getting in over ones head/pocketbook in an unrealistic project.

[Jeremy]

"90% complete", "Just needs final assembly" says the description.

Hmmm.....good thing there are pictures showing how much work it really needs

Jeremy

[maria-n-skip]

Jeremy,
   Or even scarier how many hours already went into it.

Tekebird
    I guess so but what ever happened to cut your loses. I realize amongst this group and
myself that is a nasty concept. But then I have always known reality is for the other guy
to deal with. If you look, the barn is huge....more like a business setup. As you well
know when it comes to buses and business the bottom line rules

   I didn't realize there was seconds in the chassis world. Now that scares me!

  Skip

[compedgemarine]

as the owner of a rusty Eagle the part I dont get is the suspension area rarely rusts. it is all the tubing attached to the suspension which from the pics was replaced anyway. seems like it would have been easier to fix the Eagle frame than do what they did. on the other hand if the reserve is low enough you could pick up a nice engine/trans and other parts so who knows?
Steve

[Hartley]

Well, Errr...

I looked at the listing too..
OK...
If the guy went to the trouble to replace the whole running chassis with the new
type that has all of the modern power and conveniences he did it because the old setup was either not worth repairing or would have been too expensive and take too much fiddling around with to get fixed up. and it would still be 30 years old.

The spartan has the right power plant, transmission and all the computer stuff already
done and wired to run with. Setting a usable interior space down onto it and hooking stuff up would seem to make sense. That also depend on how cheap he got the chassis and original bus for.

Some of those chassis did get surplused out and do each year probably because they change orders and specs during a run for some big SS builders. I saw one go that was a manufacturers "sample" at one auction a while back for less than $20k and it had a Cummins and 6 speed... The buyer jumped in the temp seat, put on a seat belt and crash helmet and drove it home. even the OTR air package was strapped down in boxes back on the frame rails....

Such a deal.. If I had the money I might bid up to about $25k on that rig just for fun, It would be a unique setup and could probably be titled as a 2007 Eagle too !!
( at least it would be the first actual running one ) ( That was a joke Please!!)

[maria-n-skip]

Steve,
    Sounds like the voice of experience, thanks

DrDave,
    That brings an interest issue "2007 Eagle" since the frame is new and none lic. as yet
  Licensing it as a 2007 Eagle could that bring up Copyright issues and or name infringements?

   It really is a diff. solution to what was probably a problem of some sort.


Skip

[Songman]

Lots of bus conversions are titled as the year they were completed from what I have seen. I don't think registration has anything to do with copyright since there is no advertising or revenue from it.

[Hartley]

Steve,
    Sounds like the voice of experience, thanks

DrDave,
    That brings an interest issue "2007 Eagle" since the frame is new and none lic. as yet
  Licensing it as a 2007 Eagle could that bring up Copyright issues and or name infringements?

   It really is a diff. solution to what was probably a problem of some sort.


Skip

Errr.. Well lets see. There is a Motorhome called the "American Eagle" and uses the Eagle
as it's emblem.

The installation or merging of two different VIN numbered running chassis, One which is the original Eagle and the other which only comes with a VIN and MCO ( Manufacturers Certificate of Origin ) would need to be verified by whatever agency handles the title work. They would inspect and adjust the paperwork accordingly.

I would be guessing that whichever is the newer part will be the year model used but the title may remain as an Eagle. So if the chassis unit is a 2006 then the change might be to a 2006 Eagle bus, with a VIN as assigned my the MCO.
Or the whole thing may mean to used the final assembly date, Use the Eagle body and a modified VIN number and a new VIN plate attached to the bodywork.

I seriously doubt that the New Eagle Company would get into a contest over this unless they want to go back retroactively and accept all responsibility for every Eagle ever built in the U.S. They might themselves have issues with copyrights and patents, But I don't know what they have done and what they haven't done. Not my business...

Keep in mind that this is all guessing and nobody will know how or what until they do it.

Dave.....

[Dreamscape]

Wonder what the reserve is. That looks like a major project to resurrect. It could be done with lots of time an money though. I'll stick to mine, I have plenty to do for sure.