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Bad Day

Started by freds, February 26, 2022, 08:37:37 PM

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freds

I revisited the accident site on Tuesday and they had already attended to the bad orientation of the fire hydrant after I side swiped it.

The original city guy I talked to said he was going to unbolt it and re-clocked it from the bolt pattern.

The final repair looks like they dug it up and re-cocked it below ground. Waiting to hear what they will charge for that work...


 

dtcerrato

Just thinking out loud here but before you volunteer to pay for hydrant repair - I would question why there weren't bollards to protect the hydrant.

I once rolled into a gas station overhang to fuel and my 9' stainless steel whip antenna busted a whole line of overhead fluorescent lights. When they told me I had to pay for all of them - I asked them to call the police. When they arrived I complained that there were no clearance signs showing height of overhang & no protective cages over the bulbs in a public trafficked area. The cop told me to go on... Just saying.
Really sorry for your loss - but it is a priceless experience _ hopefully not measured in $$$! Good luck.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

luvrbus

That is a Muller F/H they with the break away they re-clock at the top not the bottom,they probably dug down to check the break away flange .I have had  to replace the flange on many because people working for me would hit one lol and we installed the F/H's and they knew they were there and would still hit one.Pipe bollards are usually around a F/H on private property fire departments hate the bollards,the break away kit is around  300 bucks and a hour of labor
Life is short drink the good wine first

freds

I have been hanging out in Wickenburg behind the Craig Truck/RV repair waiting for them to work on my generator and other semi-minor items that I would like them to do to my bus. Oil change, transmission shift linkage adjustment, backup lights, etc.

They are feeding me a 120v extension cord so sort of easy driveway camping as I feed that power into the house batteries and let the inverter handle the big surges.

They want to do everything at once and we have been waiting for a special tool to create a unique (i think) sealing flange on the hard fuel lines on my British Diesel Perkins engine which is part of my vintage generator.

Anyway I had sometime on my hands today since it's the weekend and started watching videos on how you remove structural stainless steel rivets and I decided to remove the skin that was torn up by the fire hydrant to see what the total damage was.

A few hours of work and I can now see more what the damage is.



Note that support to the left of the tank that the skin is riveted too; should be a straight vertical structure, not that weird jog at the bottom.

And a more look down view which you can see waves in and out where the bottom part of the skin would attach too:



One silver lining to this is that the area above the fuel tank is more accessible for:

1. Work on the shower drain to finish my recirculating hour long shower project.
2. Aux fuel tap on the main tank that feeds the generator and the Diesel hydronic boiler. Which was bypassed by the previous owner and is now giving me problems with an air leak so the Diesel boiler is unreliable pulling fuel from the main tank.

The picture makes light of the actual dent on the fuel tank because you can't see it in 3D, but it was a fairly good hit.

Once I got into the rhythm of it. Removing the damaged skin was relatively straight forward. If I can find the parts this might be easier to repair than other automotive things I have crunched in the last fifty years....




TomC

I side swiped a concrete high curb at the truck stop. Luckily it was a straight aluminum sheet. The sheet was 22" x 42" and had 96 (I kid you not) rivets to drill out. I took the damaged sheet in to get paint matched, I had a new piece made with .060 aluminum sheet, I painted it then after pulling out the bent parts reattached using big phillips head sheet metal screws (like what Thomas buses use) and only put in 45 screws. Can't even tell now. Always an adventure. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

freds

My current thinking is they will just cut out the bent backing metal and weld in new metal. Then drill new holes to do the riveting..

fortyniner

I dont know much about Prevost but its construction reminds me of the GM style where the body is the frame.
Tom Phillips
PD4106-453
PD4106-2864
87 Alfa Milano
93 Range Rover
87 190e-16 Mercedes
92 Jeep Comanche

Busted Knuckle

You got lucky that it only dented the fuel tank and did not gouge a huge gash in it releasing all that liquid gold!
;D  BK  ;D
Busted Knuckle aka Bryce Gaston
KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
www.kylakesidetravel.net

;D Keep SMILING it makes people wonder what yer up to! ;D (at least thats what momma always told me! ;D)

freds

Quote from: Busted Knuckle on March 16, 2022, 09:55:37 AM
You got lucky that it only dented the fuel tank and did not gouge a huge gash in it releasing all that liquid gold!
;D  BK  ;D

I hear you though at the time I didn't think I had liquid gold. Just was worried about it being a hazmat situation.

Getting ready to head home in the next couple of weeks and it would be interesting to compare cost down verses cost back.


freds

I broke down and posted on Facebook which is something that I avoid like the plague. (Funny how that statement doesn't seem to apply today...)

Anyway I heard back from:

Steve Kolb
IBP Industries
2055 Sprint Blvd
Apopka, Fl 32703
407-880-9700 Local
800-468-5287 Toll Free
407-880-2026 Fax
www.ibpindustries.com
https://ibp.parts

Turns out that they produced the skin panels under sub-contract to Prevost and had all the engineering drawings. Which they sent me for my bus which has one measurement that is different than is on my bus. I need to verify that that portion is behind the fender before ordering the part.

I was aware of them but didn't initially contact them as their website didn't list my bus.

Push comes to shove you can also send them your old part and they will measure it and build a new one. They also list MCI so maybe they can make skins for that bus also.

robertglines1

Good people and nice product.. satisfied customer--been to their shop.  Bob
Bob@Judy  98 XLE prevost with 3 slides --Home done---last one! SW INdiana

Sebulba

Quote from: freds on March 24, 2022, 09:51:59 AM
I broke down and posted on Facebook which is something that I avoid like the plague. (Funny how that statement doesn't seem to apply today...)

Anyway I heard back from:

Steve Kolb
IBP Industries
2055 Sprint Blvd
Apopka, Fl 32703
407-880-9700 Local
800-468-5287 Toll Free
407-880-2026 Fax
www.ibpindustries.com
https://ibp.parts

Turns out that they produced the skin panels under sub-contract to Prevost and had all the engineering drawings. Which they sent me for my bus which has one measurement that is different than is on my bus. I need to verify that that portion is behind the fender before ordering the part.

I was aware of them but didn't initially contact them as their website didn't list my bus.

Push comes to shove you can also send them your old part and they will measure it and build a new one. They also list MCI so maybe they can make skins for that bus also.

That is just cool!  I love the network we have here.

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

buswarrior

IBP does WAY more than their website lists.

ALWAYS call them, old stuff like what we busnuts do, is small batch, low volume and requires talking anyway... listing old stuff on one's website isn't always good for the rest of what one does...

They can reproduce every style of fluted siding back to antiquity.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Quote from: freds on March 24, 2022, 09:51:59 AM
I broke down and posted on Facebook which is something that I avoid like the plague. (Funny how that statement doesn't seem to apply today...)

Anyway I heard back from:

Steve Kolb
IBP Industries
2055 Sprint Blvd
Apopka, Fl 32703
407-880-9700 Local
800-468-5287 Toll Free
407-880-2026 Fax
www.ibpindustries.com
https://ibp.parts

Turns out that they produced the skin panels under sub-contract to Prevost and had all the engineering drawings. Which they sent me for my bus which has one measurement that is different than is on my bus. I need to verify that that portion is behind the fender before ordering the part.

I was aware of them but didn't initially contact them as their website didn't list my bus.

Push comes to shove you can also send them your old part and they will measure it and build a new one. They also list MCI so maybe they can make skins for that bus also.
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

freds

I am leaving the bus at the Prevost LA maintenance location and they will handle everything. Sixteen work bays and about 60 parking spots.

They are currently finishing up repairs on a much newer bus (famous name recognition entertainer) that did a bit of off roading where all the storage bays were deformed.

Turns out it doesn't matter how old your Prevost is. You are a member of the club and this location has eight parking spaces with 50 AMP power that you are welcome to use if there is a space available.

Evidently it really fills up on the weekend with entertainer buses.

Looks like it will take six weeks to get everything done. So I will fly home and return to get it when it's done.

Going to have them do work on a bunch of other nagging things that I haven't gotten too.

Got complemented on the quality of the pictures that I sent them before that had accurately showed the damage.


sledhead

how come so long ?

I could never leave my coach that long at a repair place
dave , karen
1990 mci 102c  6v92 ta ht740  kit,living room slide .... sold
2000 featherlite vogue vantare 550 hp 3406e  cat
1875 lbs torque  home base huntsville ontario canada