Bus Barn Ideas

Dave5Cs · February 19, 2022, 08:10:27 PM

BK you mean the Rafters not the purlins right? Metal goes on top of the Rafters. Purlins are horizontal bracing through the trusses or 1/3 way down from the ridge under rafters at right angles to them with bracing under them holding up the roof load to a beam or bearing wall to keep them from sagging.

muldoonman · February 20, 2022, 08:00:25 AM

Quote from: windtrader on February 19, 2022, 05:53:45 PM
Those square doors make it look much smaller. LOL
QuoteWish I'd a sprung for a 60' x 80'. It's already full. Old pic when i had the XL.

chessie4905 · February 20, 2022, 01:29:59 PM

always go larger than you think you'll need. If you have room to lengthen in future, go some wider when build. Lot easier to lengthen in future. Consider room along sides. Normal to have stuff stashed along walls. Allow for 30 to 36 inches long walls plus 5 to 8 feet between stash and coach on each side.

6805eagleguy · February 20, 2022, 06:45:12 PM

Our is 50x60 which is a good size for us. North 60' side has 12' mezzanine all the way. Bus parks on south side. Middle isle is our functioning shop/ garage

20x14 door 16' ceiling.

Stick frame building NOT a pole barn

Can't find any pictures of it atm

dtcerrato · February 21, 2022, 05:46:46 AM

Ours is 20×60 under A/C roof with a pit and a 12' × 60' lean-to on each long side. 10' ×12' OH door on each end.

Busted Knuckle · February 21, 2022, 07:54:34 AM

Ted they maybe telling you correct, I don't know. I DO KNOW that IF WE BUILD IT, it gets house wrap, double bubble, or vinyl backed insulation. Even if they say they are going to have it spray foamed our crew puts something under the metal before the metal gets screwed down.

Quote from: Dave5Cs on February 19, 2022, 08:10:27 PM
BK you mean the Rafters not the purlins right? Metal goes on top of the Rafters. Purlins are horizontal bracing through the trusses or 1/3 way down from the ridge under rafters at right angles to them with bracing under them holding up the roof load to a beam or bearing wall to keep them from sagging.

Dave around here EVERYBODY calls the boards running across the top of the trusses PURLINS, I don't know if it's correct or not. I just know that's what ALL the carpenters, suppliers and everyone I have heard call them.

BK

Dave5Cs · February 21, 2022, 09:23:59 AM

BK tell them to look it up in a builders book. I was a Building Contractor for 45 years and it has always been this. But I have also learned over the years that different states and even regines calls thing different names because that 1 guy who didn't know the name made up something or heard a name of something and didn't understand where it went and continued to call it that.
Example in Cali and most other state they call concrete structural supports in the ground Footings. In Colorado they call them Footers. But in most states the top of a roof is always a rafter and the Purlin supports the middle of it.
https://www.homenish.com/parts-of-a-roof-truss/

Now if they ran 2x 4's or 2x2's across the top of the rafters those would also be known as purlins say for tile roof etc. at right angles to them.

freds · February 21, 2022, 02:01:31 PM

Ok let's invite some European members to start talking metric to this thread LOL!!!

Tedsoldbus · February 21, 2022, 03:01:27 PM

Dave5Cs, don't pick on Busted Knuckle. I have seen pictures of him. I think he can take you...
I never pick a fight with a guy who's arms are bigger than my chest.
And thanks BK on the barrier. Like I said since you build them in similar climate to me I expect you are correct. The vendors were trying to sell me the barrier because they sell it. Had to find a different guy to do foam. Since I didn't have them put the barrier on before the roof, per lings, (and rafters to keep everyone happy), already have roofing screwed to them. so I am "screwed" now on barrier before foam. Just going to have him blast the roof with 3 inches and sides with 1 1/2 and hope for the best.
Keep the pictures coming guys. I think everyone thinking of doing this enjoys them. Just dig out that 35 digital so your phone does not post them sideways.

robertglines1 · February 21, 2022, 04:10:06 PM

go all steel...Wood Trusses are just a wasted space. Plus a steel building will sell for much more later. I built both over the years.. Then realized it was less stress to work for someone else..I do recomend a opaque ridge cap will let you have so natural lite in building. Ceco makes a nice bar joice truss building with 16ft bays and 2 by wood purlins and girts fitted in to clips. For info only.. Bob

Dave5Cs · February 21, 2022, 08:05:59 PM

Agree with Bob, good idea.

Ted; nope not afraid of BK, he's as old as me hey maybe more, lol. He and I were to fight we would have to take it easy getting up if we sit to long,lol
But I here he's got a mean dog that steals full slbs of Bacon all by his self....

freds · February 21, 2022, 09:03:46 PM

Quote from: Tedsoldbus on February 21, 2022, 03:01:27 PM
Dave5Cs, don't pick on Busted Knuckle. I have seen pictures of him. I think he can take you...

I am getting confused are you planning on building the bus barn or is it already built and we are talking the best way to do upgrades?

chessie4905 · February 22, 2022, 07:06:21 AM

I like my Morton building. Wood trusses and stand up attic. The stuff I store up there is at edges and ends so as not to test the strength of trusses. They erected the building in 7 days. They don't fool around. Back in mid 80's cost 23k. Shell, first ever large coupla, walk in door, and 2 12x12 electric oh doors. 48x60x15' ceiling

6805eagleguy · February 22, 2022, 07:56:35 AM

Quote from: robertglines1 on February 21, 2022, 04:10:06 PM
go all steel...Wood Trusses are just a wasted space. Plus a steel building will sell for much more later. I built both over the years.. Then realized it was less stress to work for someone else..I do recomend a opaque ridge cap will let you have so natural lite in building. Ceco makes a nice bar joice truss building with 16ft bays and 2 by wood purlins and girts fitted in to clips. For info only.. Bob

When we built ours, 2016/2017, wood saved us a lot of $$$, just from the simple fact that we didnt have to run conduit for wiring.

Dad is building a 80x160 right now its a steel building that will make a nice shop.

dtcerrato · February 22, 2022, 08:20:51 PM

Our bus barn is a culmination of skimmed construction materials over the coarse of a good portion of a life time.
It turned out to be more of a commercial structure and may even be able to out last the pressure treated log home we live in.
It's on a 6" #5 rebar reinforced slab, full pit, structural metal framing (18 & 16 gauge) with steel bar joists at 6' on center for roof support. 6" round steel columns at four corners and two self supported 4"x4" steel columns in each 60' wall self supported all on 6'x6'x2' rebar reinforced concrete pads, The entire building is cladded with 16oz (per sq. Ft.) FRP 2" corrugated casing with 4+" spray foam on ceiling (underside of roof) 4" fiberglass on walls. We have less than $10,000 in it and it's heaven in retirement. An automatic OH door on each long end with screened enclosure when doors are open - no bugs, snakes, nor birds inside and a great cross flow breeze all day long - at least this time of year. Rant over - carry on.