Infaltion and rebuilding a 2 stroke engine
 

Infaltion and rebuilding a 2 stroke engine

Started by luvrbus, January 13, 2022, 03:24:08 PM

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luvrbus

Prices are through the roof on parts for the 2 stroke engines,I need a 2 heads for a 8v71 and 2 years ago a loaded after market head was less than $1250.00 ea now a loaded head new valves,valve springs ,seats and guides are $4300.ea without shipping.The heads are off shore and not the greatest by far,it is unreal the price of parts now.LOL I wanted a set of 8v92 heads for stock but not a $6500.00 ea
Life is short drink the good wine first

Tedsoldbus

 Your observation makes me afraid to start my forty two year old 6V92. When I shut it off 4 weeks ago, it was working great. Why mess with that?
Kansas. What about the place in Kansas with all the parts? Forget the offshore stuff. When the snow quits, I'll meet you there with my F-150 and my neighbors box trailer. I really will.
I'm also not afraid to think out of the box. If my DD has a major ka boom, remembering my bus is only 96 wide, what would you charge me to put a new Cat or Cummins in the back? Can't be much worse than trying to get parts from what you are seeing.
Seriously, I hope you can continue to find what you need. It is a dwindling art with dwindling parts.
1980 shorty (35') Prevost
6V92  HT 740
Lake Nottely Ga
Bus name "debt"
Education is important, but having a Bus is importanter...

tr206

Build back better not working we need to make American great again. Lets go Brandon!

luvrbus

Quote from: tr206 on January 13, 2022, 06:45:46 PM
8v71- 2 valve  https://www.ebay.com/itm/254599714910?hash=item3b4753585e:g:Z~MAAOSwjXVewXsF

8v71 4 valve  https://www.ebay.com/itm/165153260809?hash=item2673e6c509:g:Z1kAAOSwkIFheLcf


8v92 Says USA made-  https://www.ebay.com/itm/262033079127?epid=1517829754&hash=item3d02637b57:g:LnAAAOSwd0BV6HAi

Unbranded- 8v92  https://www.ebay.com/itm/255146101245?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3b67e489fd:g:kWIAAOSwqDheaTVK&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACkPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsSg3Ye8yTWgOW7pmE1t838dorSMnwOQJeAFbjcgBjW5OYFQB6T9PBHUn3K4k%252F9AEdzbqdmapmLD%252B7dw6AtMlPsU4GNjzl20g%252FJVaeNey1DPtaET%252B28mBAqKCFBhNUQ1Y8aYAMOeLeEPuEn0ZOMoEaMs01v8lZFPI5AoKWFi2nCmdmBTPu3w4zMlad%252F0PpZcmuLPvVq1c360lng2GnkMlYVKsM98ILQhmL4PO9PFREgHE0zoz6e9KhOaQxjh822z5WIFRDO2g39z3esW4mL2YvkbYoM%252Bi4dfsSeKhEs0fv%252Fq40lUGzdgsf%252FF1dxWrm89axtDRURDR4f0BvNWaCX2rug%252FgQ4n7ZYdCDCdMAWYAO4l7oo%252FaPe4F1t%252FRjjk92pN%252B8SL5%252FYgtzXGDfRG%252FcxNxCrpfILjnSxkF%252Bs2nd0YJyFmgI%252F2%252Fk335xOJNUw9vso8H6DQsGLO1tUUhWZ2XRn8GXPWSd%252BcA8wAeMkXWbmIPQrHoKedjKFuac%252FYFOBa0YFJzdsjevjtoURMJSzi1V%252BesX2D8GvcFU5DcVhXnPwu5pGgUGsms8GWCJFstyxMrWM4K1EGiqTjjHoIQeKTke%252BI2DbwaqRjf36Rwwt4XcJij%252BxpHT2iIBFnrT451hHcsn1%252FIXHiJshGqoNVJdfHlvRNdUWtGm4Ifh7jma6WTH%252FjOLWlhm%252BnpvBQzpmam8Ihv9wPEeF3Yi1PDPzii8AYHI2mrvL1zqkXvIdVR7YcNH%252FdSCiaNhxUpHNdt6xUpOztd1mzws%252B4gu7jIJY6VCUfF%252BF4KvWlISOULdGbJ7jIR7DiwSdVVytHXHongKBifZDKFCU8kH4%7Cclp%3A2334524%7Ctkp%3ABFBMiO-k58pf

You never know what you buying on Ebay I look at some like in the ad said they were reman "NEW" and there is a huge difference in reman and new and loaded and bare heads
Life is short drink the good wine first

tr206

I know Cliff just throwing out there buyer beware. I bought a Timken wheel bearing (from Rockauto) for my car and the holes didn't match so I called Timken to let them know and they said Rockauto is not there distributor and it is a fake even came in a beautiful orange and black Timken box. lesson learned even when you try to buy quality you can get screwed. Made it fit but I could have paid 3/4's less for the same junk quality probably the same part in a different box.
Build back better not working we need to make American great again. Lets go Brandon!

dtcerrato

Inflation effects prices across the board on everything... Not just two strokes. IMO
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

luvrbus

Quote from: dtcerrato on January 14, 2022, 04:57:11 AM
Inflation effects prices across the board on everything... Not just two strokes. IMO

It sure does but I have never saw this before on DD parts aftermarket or OEM .If MTU doesn't change their minds this is the year all support stops for the 2 strokes lol like it has been all that great in the last few years
Life is short drink the good wine first

dtcerrato

We have only 13,000 miles on our rebuild. I don't plan on doing it again in my life and would retire the bus as a tiny home if it quits in the right place. Lol
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

windtrader

This latest set of economic changes makes it even easier to justify buying a very solid running bus, strip out the motor and all other major parts and simply store them just in case. You'll be way ahead having spares on hand and being protected from any more prices increases.


Just for the cost of a couple parts Clifford cited, you can get a whole running bus.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

luvrbus

Quote from: windtrader on January 14, 2022, 10:16:23 AM
This latest set of economic changes makes it even easier to justify buying a very solid running bus, strip out the motor and all other major parts and simply store them just in case. You'll be way ahead having spares on hand and being protected from any more prices increases.


Just for the cost of a couple parts Clifford cited, you can get a whole running bus.

Yep with a modern design 4 stroke engine and transmission 
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

well, I'm  good to go then. Spare engine and spare set of heads, air compressor, alternator, and a spare 4905.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

buswarrior

Two somewhat unrelated issues, converging in time...

I guess it matters not to the wild american psyche, blame will be attributed wherever it is popular to lay it?

There are supply chain issues, and peeps taking advantage of those.

The 2 stroke is ranging towards the end of support, with accompanying price gouging.

The timeless issue... anyone who buys a bus that needs an engine, is nuts.

Totally upside down right from the start.

Now, if work is being done on "old faithful" with many years of previous service, and many years of future service to come, hunting for a good used take-out is way more important than it was in the past...

Friends don't let friends buy buses that don't have engine life left in them...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

chessie4905

Waste of breath usually unfortunately. People fall in love with a conversion or shell and ask for advice, but never take it.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

epretot

So I didn't click on this thread because I didn't know what "infaltion" was.

Turns out it's not a technical bus thingy after all.



2000 MCI 102 DL3
Loveland, OH

luvrbus

Quote from: epretot on January 14, 2022, 06:22:19 PM
So I didn't click on this thread because I didn't know what "infaltion" was.

Turns out it's not a technical bus thingy after all.

Lol I waited 2 days for some one to catch the auto fill that miss spelled inflation 
Life is short drink the good wine first