Suggestion for a battery tender
 

Suggestion for a battery tender

Started by Sebulba, December 25, 2021, 12:25:32 PM

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Sebulba

Hello all,

We will be sitting for about 4 months and am wondering about suggestions for a battery tender for the bus batteries.

Also, would it be advisable to get 2 battery tenders (12 volt), one for each battery?

Thanks

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

richard5933

My 24v bus battery bank (two 12v 8D batteries in series) has been on a Progressive Dynamics 24v converter/charger for years. This is a true multi-state unit which will keep the batteries well.

I've always been leery of 'battery tenders' as they are often not smart systems and only have one, constant voltage output.

This is the unit I have: https://www.progressivedyn.com/specialty/pd9240-24a-volt-power-converterbattery-charger/

Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

chessie4905

Battery tenders may not be able maintain large batteries or ones that are older condition. Automatic smart charger?
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

Sebulba

Quote from: richard5933 on December 25, 2021, 12:36:22 PM
My 24v bus battery bank (two 12v 8D batteries in series) has been on a Progressive Dynamics 24v converter/charger for years. This is a true multi-state unit which will keep the batteries well.

I've always been leery of 'battery tenders' as they are often not smart systems and only have one, constant voltage output.

This is the unit I have: https://www.progressivedyn.com/specialty/pd9240-24a-volt-power-converterbattery-charger/

Thank you, I will look into that.

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

Sebulba

Quote from: chessie4905 on December 25, 2021, 02:00:40 PM
Battery tenders may not be able maintain large batteries or ones that are older condition. Automatic smart charger?

Maybe.  I do have a 10 amp 12 volt charger?

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

Van

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Now in N. Cakalaki

Sebulba

Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

buswarrior

I like the Noco Genius chargers.

Smart, reasonable price.

I watched the old 3/4 amp one work over a bad car battery. Multimeter on it to watch the voltage go up and down over 3 days, the circuitry had decided it needed equalization. Kissed 15 volts, voltage dropped to normal tending, and got the steady green light.

Battery returned to service.

For the coach, if it is "in storage" and not fully equipped electrically yet,  a 12 volt smart tender on each battery solves/prevents/defends against whatever evils pairing them up might cause/contribute/continue.

And cost effective, initially and later they can be used on all the rest of your 12 volt equipment

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

Sebulba

Quote from: buswarrior on December 25, 2021, 06:35:22 PM
I like the Noco Genius chargers.

Smart, reasonable price.

I watched the old 3/4 amp one work over a bad car battery. Multimeter on it to watch the voltage go up and down over 3 days, the circuitry had decided it needed equalization. Kissed 15 volts, voltage dropped to normal tending, and got the steady green light.

Battery returned to service.

For the coach, if it is "in storage" and not fully equipped electrically yet,  a 12 volt smart tender on each battery solves/prevents/defends against whatever evils pairing them up might cause/contribute/continue.

And cost effective, initially and later they can be used on all the rest of your 12 volt equipment

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Great!  That's more like what I'm looking for now. 

Thanks for your input.

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

Sebulba

Quote from: buswarrior on December 25, 2021, 06:35:22 PM
I like the Noco Genius chargers.

Smart, reasonable price.

I watched the old 3/4 amp one work over a bad car battery. Multimeter on it to watch the voltage go up and down over 3 days, the circuitry had decided it needed equalization. Kissed 15 volts, voltage dropped to normal tending, and got the steady green light.

Battery returned to service.

For the coach, if it is "in storage" and not fully equipped electrically yet,  a 12 volt smart tender on each battery solves/prevents/defends against whatever evils pairing them up might cause/contribute/continue.

And cost effective, initially and later they can be used on all the rest of your 12 volt equipment

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Let me ask, to tend the batteries, how many amps do you think is enough?

Thanks

Sen
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

richard5933

If you are going through the effort to install a 'tender', why not just install something robust enough to actually charge them when you need?
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

windtrader

I don't see using a regular charger than is connected to a timer. Seems like x minutes every x days would do just fine. Not all that scientific but if just trying to keep the battery tickled and in the voltage range, seems like nearly zero cost if a charger is lying around.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

Sebulba

Quote from: richard5933 on December 25, 2021, 07:25:23 PM
If you are going through the effort to install a 'tender', why not just install something robust enough to actually charge them when you need?

That is worth considering. 

Sen
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

Sebulba

Quote from: windtrader on December 25, 2021, 07:45:49 PM
I don't see using a regular charger than is connected to a timer. Seems like x minutes every x days would do just fine. Not all that scientific but if just trying to keep the battery tickled and in the voltage range, seems like nearly zero cost if a charger is lying around.

I do have a good 12 volt charger, but that would only do one battery.

The ones that BusWarrior mentioned had double charger options.  I assume that they would equalize and do a good job of maintaining.

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

luvrbus

Charge the batteries to full charge disconnet the cable and you will fine for 4 months with no draw from the batteries, I am not a big fan of battery maintainers on lead acid batteries all they do is keep the voltage up .I replaced a NAPA G-27 battery the green lights said it was ok lol it wouldn't even start a lawn mower if you tried much less the generator 
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