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Rehash: 120 volt or 240 volt for 12.5 KW generator

Started by belfert, August 06, 2021, 07:18:20 PM

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belfert

The generator would be set for 120 volt only when tying the two legs together.  I know enough not to tie 240 service service together.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

TomC

On my bus I have a Powertech 10kw powering 3 13,500 roof tops and 2 elec water heaters. I have the generator wired straight 120v with two sets of three wires from the generator to the breaker box. Hence that also means I only use one leg of a land line for 50 amps-which when sitting isn't a problem. I like it so much, I wired my truck motorhome with Wrico 12kw the same way. It eliminates having to balance the load. On the Wrico, I had to change the hook up on the alternator and add a jumper on the regulator-actually not that big of a deal. Much easier and have never had a problem with just 50amp on land line. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

buswarrior

The good generators will have a schematic and directions under the lid, as to which L1, L2 L3 L4 to connect to where, depending on the desired outcome.

The generator head manufacturer doesn't want you to screw it up either...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

belfert

This is supposed to be a good generator head made in Italy, but no diagram under the lid.  My friend was over Friday evening and expected to have the wiring diagram under the top.  The diagram is in the manual I got.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

richard5933

Quote from: belfert on August 08, 2021, 12:14:52 PM
This is supposed to be a good generator head made in Italy, but no diagram under the lid.  My friend was over Friday evening and expected to have the wiring diagram under the top.  The diagram is in the manual I got.

I had one of those from Wrico. The head was made by Mecc Alte and was really nice. Bolted it to my existing Perkins diesel and it made a sweet generator. The diagram was available on their website if I remember correctly. I have it somewhere if you can't find it.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

belfert

Quote from: richard5933 on August 08, 2021, 06:20:24 PM
I had one of those from Wrico. The head was made by Mecc Alte and was really nice. Bolted it to my existing Perkins diesel and it made a sweet generator. The diagram was available on their website if I remember correctly. I have it somewhere if you can't find it.

I was thinking the manufacturer was Mecc Alte, but I wasn't sure and didn't want to go out and look at the generator.  The wiring diagram is in the manual Wrico supplied.  I haven't had a reason to look at the Mecc Alte website.

Edit: I took a picture of my generator data plate and went to the Mecc Alte website.  Where do you find a manual or wiring diagrams on the site?  I looked up my serial number and it has all kinds of great dat, but no manual or wiring diagrams.  I tried looking up my model number too, but nothing there either.  The serial number lookup is cool as it shows the results of quality control testing for your specific unit and even the QC results for the voltage regulator.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

David Anderson

Looks like the consensus is about 50/50 either way.  Dick Wright gave me the option of 240 or 2 120's when purchased, and I voted 240.  I've had my Wrico 13kw that way for 20 years without a hiccup.  I have a 50amp welder plug on the bus to plug in my Lincoln cracker box welder just in case.  It has been used a few times.  I used #6awg  THHN wires in mc flex conduit for wiring.  Neutral is #6awg also.  Ground is #10.

I do have ammeters on each leg to see the loads.  I bought current transformers for that circuit so the signal wires to from the transformer to the meters are #16awg.   Ammeters are next to the generator control pad within sight of the bus driver.  I am never more than 10 amps out of balance.  It's not hard to keep the loads closely balanced.

David

Dave5Cs

Quote from: richard5933 on August 08, 2021, 03:53:46 AM
What kind of receptacle are they using? Two 50-amp?

Standard 100Amp 5 pin just like for porta-power boxes.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

richard5933

Quote from: Dave5Cs on August 10, 2021, 06:34:16 AM
Standard 100Amp 5 pin just like for porta-power boxes.

Are there commercial rigs using 100a power like this? I've looked at many high-end coaches at rallies and shows but never seen one with more than a standard 50-amp power setup. What type of rigs are going with 100-amp service?
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

dtcerrato

Quote from: richard5933 on August 10, 2021, 07:33:41 AM
Are there commercial rigs using 100a power like this? I've looked at many high-end coaches at rallies and shows but never seen one with more than a standard 50-amp power setup. What type of rigs are going with 100-amp service?

Geeze! Talk about ENERGY HOGS...
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

Dave5Cs

Maybe ones with 4 and 5 Ac's. We saw them in Texas and OK at the poles and some say people hav big rigs now seem to look for them. Otherwise can't imagine who would use them.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.