Engine oil Analysis before buying a bus?
 

Engine oil Analysis before buying a bus?

Started by Sebulba, June 22, 2021, 04:10:17 AM

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Sebulba

Hello all,

Just thinking it may be a wise thing to get and engine oil analysis before buying. 

Am I missing something? 
Is this extreme? 
Is this not as indicative of issues as I may thing?

If this is a good idea, is there a testing company with a quick turnaround you can suggest?

Thanks

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

Utahclaimjumper


Oil analysis only gives you a trending look unless you catch it before it is changed..>>>Dan
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DoubleEagle

It would be a prudent thing to do, the results won't be dramatic if everything is normal, or the oil has been recently changed, but it can catch unusual amounts of wear metals, antifreeze contamination. It should not replace careful inspection and road testing.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

luvrbus

Have someone pull the engine info from the ECM it tells a lot,the engine life history is in that box,if it hasn't been changed ,better check the B500 Allison too
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

careful on oil analysis. owner may have just changed it, and info wont be accurate. But good idea for finding issues. Trouble is, most are too emotionally involved to do serious check out.
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luvrbus

Oil sample are good if you have a base line from previous oil change,even with fresh oil one will show coolant and diesel fuel in the oil and that is about all it will show 
Life is short drink the good wine first

Sebulba

Quote from: DoubleEagle on June 22, 2021, 05:48:22 AM
It would be a prudent thing to do, the results won't be dramatic if everything is normal, or the oil has been recently changed, but it can catch unusual amounts of wear metals, antifreeze contamination. It should not replace careful inspection and road testing.

Yes, indeed.

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

Sebulba

Quote from: luvrbus on June 22, 2021, 06:22:34 AM
Have someone pull the engine info from the ECM it tells a lot,the engine life history is in that box,if it hasn't been changed ,better check the B500 Allison too

Aaahhaa, ok, good suggestion, but from the way you said that, it could be changed?

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

Sebulba

Quote from: chessie4905 on June 22, 2021, 08:28:23 AM
careful on oil analysis. owner may have just changed it, and info wont be accurate. But good idea for finding issues. Trouble is, most are too emotionally involved to do serious check out.

Of course.  Buyer beware :-\

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com

Sebulba

Quote from: luvrbus on June 22, 2021, 09:16:51 AM
Oil sample are good if you have a base line from previous oil change,even with fresh oil one will show coolant and diesel fuel in the oil and that is about all it will show

It seems that it would have quite limited usefulness.

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://basicsuds.com