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bogie wheel locking the brakes

Started by David Anderson, March 05, 2021, 01:25:01 PM

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buswarrior

Did you go and weigh that bogie on a scale?

All this angst and no confirmed reality?

Flat spotting tires that cost how many hundreds, vs a multi-axle scale ticket at the Cat scale?

Give in to the Dark Side..?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

windtrader

Humm.. I did have my bus weighed at a CAT weigh station at a truck stop. I was able to get a front and rear weighing. Honestly, I can't remember the arrangement of the scales and if I got both front and back weighed at the same time or had to move and get second weigh.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

chessie4905

again, get it weighed instead of all the fretin. Also if bogie received more agressive brake lining or less agressive on drive axle can add to the mix.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

lostagain

Some DOT inspectors carry portable scales in their car. They can weigh one wheel at a time. Don't ask how I know, lol.
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

luvrbus

Not a easy job David some people just drop the rears a 1/4 or  a 1/2 inch to add weight to the bogies ,it's still a job and the jacks are accurate most of the time they are with in a few pound of the scales used for Eagles,there is no way to read the bogie weight on Cat scales,Wayne has a set of Eagle scales call him and go for a visit some week end 
Life is short drink the good wine first

Van

Some FBO'S at your locsl airports will have portable scales, might want to check there. ;)
B&B CoachWorks
Bus Shop Mafia.
Now in N. Cakalaki

DoubleEagle

Quote from: David Anderson on March 07, 2021, 01:13:54 PM
I put a gauge on each R8 relay on the service output fittings for the drive brake and bogie brake and both read 60psi with a treadle brake application.  That eliminates an air relay issue. 

It sure appears I need to adjust the torsion spring 1 spline each and add 500 lbs of force.  Ugh. That will put it just above 4000 lbs each.  Dan Lentz doesn't recommend that weight. 

https://eagles-international.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=46&sid=55f0efb759fa90b05f9ab7d757e10e30

Not sure what to do. 

David

Just above 4000 is the maximum that he recommends, 5000 lbs is the rating for the bogie torsion. This is assuming that the ride height is correct on the front and rears, otherwise the bogie will be off. It's a lot of work, but the bogie tires will appreciate it.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

luvrbus

Careful with the bogies David last thing you want is to screw one up those haven't been available for years
Life is short drink the good wine first

David Anderson

Quote from: luvrbus on March 09, 2021, 07:59:00 PM
Careful with the bogies David last thing you want is to screw one up those haven't been available for years
Yea, I've read that.  I guess I could drop the ride height a bit since I'm and 13.75 now.  That will add weight to them for sure.
I have a trip to Oklahoma.  I will fool with it when I get back.  How about a supplemental air bag.  Any place to mount it on the axle arm?  Bracketing looks like a real challenge.

David