certify BUS for RV park

[richardkillmon]

Hello all,

Can someone explain what kind of certification I need for my bus that RVs have so they are allowed to stay at parks.
Thanks

Rick

[buswarrior]

You can't. It is a manufacturing club thing.

Some peeps have been known to pry one of those things off a wrecked rv and apply it to their bus...

If the campground is using that bit of discrimination, one must ask oneself whether or not to darken their door?

Your bus will still need to be presentable, they'll deny you for more than just that sticker...

Welcome to the discrimination...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

[richard5933]

Generally speaking, no certification is needed for most campgrounds. I've only been asked once if the bus had a sticker, and I said yes. It has a sticker, just not the specific one they're talking about.

I think like Buswarrior mentioned having the bus look presentable and safe is the biggest thing - show up in a ramshackle mess and you might be asked for a certification (or more).

[luvrbus]

Insurance co's are getting into the RVIA sticker deal now too,better read the fine print when your policy comes up for renewal,they are like sheep one leads the others will follow 

[windtrader]

Insurance co's are getting into the RVIA sticker deal now too,better read the fine print when your policy comes up for renewal,they are like sheep one leads the others will follow

I'd expect that certificate required for newer factory RV and I guess if they do some blanket change in terms across all RV policies, it is a problem. The math dudes behind all this hopefully are overseeing any change to policy terms, assessing risk and revenue estimates, and would see leaving the old ones probably makes them pretty good profits. Low incidence of claims and claim amounts would be low. Compared to just about all pushers less than 7 years old, for example.

[richard5933]

Insurance co's are getting into the RVIA sticker deal now too,better read the fine print when your policy comes up for renewal,they are like sheep one leads the others will follow

Care to share the text you are talking about? Mine doesn't have any reference to RVIA. If they insure older RVs, they have to know that not all of them are going to be self-certified to be RVIA compliant.

[buswarrior]

And the shoddy, poorly maintained chassis that are being home built into "tiny homes"  are going to have no effect on insurance?

Who is the lobby group or association representing properly maintained home bus converters that is going to be sure some accountant at the insurer doesn't just say "dump 'em all"

The tsunami sweeps up everything...

They'll keep going uninsured, those of us with assets and conscience will be parked.

So, who is looking out for us?

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

[luvrbus]

Care to share the text you are talking about? Mine doesn't have any reference to RVIA. If they insure older RVs, they have to know that not all of them are going to be self-certified to be RVIA compliant.

I just renewed my State Farm that cost me $2100.00 a year and my agent told me to send a picture of the RIVA for her files so it would be on record and I am sure she didn't just pull that out of the air.It is coming to a theater near you ,lots of insurance co's won't touch a DYI conversion now
 

[richard5933]

I just renewed my State Farm that cost me $2100.00 a year and my agent told me to send a picture of the RIVA for her files so it would be on record and I am sure she didn't just pull that out of the air.It is coming to a theater near you ,lots of insurance co's won't touch a DYI conversion now

I was asked to submit lots of pictures of my conversion 'for the file' when I first got insurance. They presumably were sent to underwriting.

Without something in the policy requiring RVIA compliance, it sounds like a CYA move on the part of the agent.

Like I said, there are a huge number of trailers out there without the RVIA sticker, and in a state with required liability requiring the sticker isn't going to fly. If it's legal to be on the road they have to insure it.

[luvrbus]

I was asked to submit lots of pictures of my conversion 'for the file' when I first got insurance. They presumably were sent to underwriting.

Without something in the policy requiring RVIA compliance, it sounds like a CYA move on the part of the agent.

Like I said, there are a huge number of trailers out there without the RVIA sticker, and in a state with required liability requiring the sticker isn't going to fly. If it's legal to be on the road they have to insure it.

Insurance co's can amend a policy when they want to do it just like a friggn credit card co and not a damn thing you can do about it.I doubt there are that many trailers on the road without a RVIA sticker since they been around since the 70's and use a different RVIA sticker than a motor home

[windtrader]

Hold on. Let's talk apples to apples. If Clifford is referencing his newer coach, that is a commercial brand RV. That makes perfect sense the insurer wants to ensure they are RVIA compliant.


Who's to say this kind of requirement is going to be required for us old buses? I'd like to hope that their underwriters have identified brands and models and years where this is needed.


Personally, I'm most concerned that a TMC is not in anyone's book. Sometimes I say MCI but I'd not surprised when "other" disappears and then left out totally. Like don't even bother to apply.

[chessie4905]

course Cliffords Motorhome insurer is particular. 2 million dollar motorhomes ARE going to get scrutiny 😉

[richard5933]

Insurance co's can amend a policy when they want to do it just like a friggn credit card co and not a damn thing you can do about it.I doubt there are that many trailers on the road without a RVIA sticker since they been around since the 70's and use a different RVIA sticker than a motor home

Sure they can. I'm not going to worry about it though. What good will it do at this point to stress over something that may or may not every be an issue. Wisconsin is a mandated insurance state, so if the vehicle is road legal I'll be able to get liability no matter what else they do to the other coverage. It's not going to keep me off the road, and odds are there will still be specialty companies for the things the big companies shy away from.

[uncle ned]

And my insurance on Huggy "basic liability" is cheaper than on my &
750 Honda.

Both at State Farm.

uncle ned

[Tedsoldbus]

You just have to word it carefully when you talk to RV parks. I have a 1980 shorty Prevost. Got it in November. So when they ask what I have and how old it is, since it is a Custom Coach conversion and I have only had it six months (which makes it "new" to me) I just say "Country Coach Bus and it is new.". But some good advice above is given above. We usually stop early in the day, so if they ask us more than one question we don't like, we hang up, keep driving, and Rita pretty quickly finds one that will take our money. We generally get approved everywhere we have tried so far. It is however a rapidly changing scenario. Last three trips the bigger challenge once in the gate of an RV park has been trying to drive around the now immensely popular 40 foot 5th wheels with a truck sticking out in the RV park road in front, and bicycles on the back of the trailer sticking out on that lane. Just have to take it slow. Record sales of big 5th wheels last two years running means we better get used to it...
Safe travels.