MC9 - 6V92 Starter
 

MC9 - 6V92 Starter

Started by Kyleayala, October 19, 2020, 09:26:51 AM

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Kyleayala

Having some starter issues on my 1982 MCI MC9.

Basically, the starter stuck yesterday after shutting down the bus. We didn't catch it in time and, by the time we noticed it there was smoke pouring from the solenoid and it stopped.

I know that the solenoid is toast now, and I have a feeling that replacing just the solenoid might not solve my issues. I believe the stater in it now is the 42mt.

I've heard that the popular replacement is the 39mt but I'm not sure as to which one is compatible with my bus, does anyone have some insight into this? Maybe a part number?

I'm going to try replacing just the solenoid, but I want to be prepared to replace the starter just in case.


windtrader

 
This is the one I installed in my MC8-8V71, Works great.

http://www.alternatorservice.com/8200330-delco-starter-24v-11t-cw-plgr-39mt-buses-with-caterpillar-cummins-d60-series-new/

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8200330 — 39MT
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Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

chessie4905

I dont know if it is the same but the 4104 had a small relay that provided current to the solenoid. Over time the points would burn and stick, causing a starter to keep running, burning it up if you didnt unhook the battery cables fast enough.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

Dave5Cs

You might just need Brushes in the one you have and in the end of the Solenoid there is a copper plate that you can clean up and turn over then off you go again.

But if not the 39MT is the one Windtrader put up. I have that too and they are very fast, lighter, and they are only made for right hand engines like ours and yours.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Kyleayala

I have seen that one, but am skeptical because it doesn't say that it fits the 6V92.

Can anyone confirm that the 8200330 will work on the 6V92? If so I'm going to go ahead and order one.

luvrbus

That is the right starter but me I would spend the extra bucks and buy the Delco 2nd generation starter
Life is short drink the good wine first

Kyleayala


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TomC

On my Kenworth truck with Cat 3406B, it had a 24v MT41 starter using a 12/24 series/parallel switch-so the truck runs on 12v, but the starter is 24. I got tired of all the crap so I replaced it with a MT39. I pulled out the series/parallel switch. The only thing I needed to know was how many teeth were on the starter gear. I told the guy at the parts store my engine, and the starter came in adjusted perfectly. I quite simply removed the big old MT41, and bolted into place the MT39 (like half the weight). I did have to change some wiring around. Since the MT39 takes half the amperage as the MT41, the MT39 was able to use the same battery cables. I had to rewire the batteries also. Best part-I only needed 3 of the 4 batteries for the new MT39. What to do with the fourth battery? It will be the generator battery. It flips the engine over very easily. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Dave5Cs

Why Tom. Mine is 24 volts 39 MT and uses two Grp31. Plenty of power.
What does 3 do?
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

luvrbus

Quote from: Dave5Cs on October 22, 2020, 10:05:02 AM
Why Tom. Mine is 24 volts 39 MT and uses two Grp31. Plenty of power.
What does 3 do?

Old truck drivers like 3 batteries Dave
Life is short drink the good wine first

Jim Eh.

Real old truck drivers use 4 (6V) batteries.
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Jim Eh.
1996 MC12
6V92TA / HT741D
Winnipeg, MB.

luvrbus

lol 3-12v batteries are standard on trucks now with 12v systems on 24v systems it's two or 4,I did see a MCI owner that used 3-8v batteries for 24v 
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